Schapelle Corby seems sweet enough. She takes care of her appearance, sits attentively and cries at the right moment. I might cry too if I was in her position, locked in Kerobokan jail with 20 years of porridge. From early on in this saga I had my suspicions about her innocence.
For me things fell into place when I heard that her sister, Mercedes, lives here in Bali full time. Schapelle was described as a straight arrow, non-drugs user, no criminal record etc. If she were bringing over a large quantity of drugs to be sold, she would have to have local contacts. You do not just sit in your guesthouse on Poppies II selling marijuana to everyone who passes by. No, you need your contacts.
Maybe Schapelle was dating a local Balinese guy, I thought. Maybe he talked her into it and will handle (and profit from) the distribution. Then I heard about her sister and things started to make sense. People have said the sister is a partier and who knows, she could have asked Schapelle to bring the drugs over in exchange for rent and a good time. Schapelle might not be the sharpest tool in the shed, maybe that sounded like a reasonable request to her.
Here are some bullet points to ponder:
I hope a way can be found so that Schapelle can be repatriated and serve her sentence in Australia. I also hope that the sentence will be reduced and that she has another chance of leading a fulfilling life.
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Bali will be a ghost town.
I really dont know what the Aussie are crying about. Drugs are illegal over the whole world even in a liberal country like the Netherlands. But i quess in Aussie everything is allowed. (drinking beer on the street, having public sex, driving a motorbike without a licence or helmet.)
AN INDONESIAN drug-smuggler convicted of importing almost a kilogram of amphetamines into Australia in 2003 is on day release and has a job earning about $400 a week.
Sumatran-born Louis Marciano is near the end of a sentence for importing methylamphetamine, or speed, and is likely to be deported in August.
A NSW District Court judge jailed him for 5½ years in 2003, but he is likely to be released after serving just the 3½-year non-parole period.
If he had been caught in Bali, he would have faced the firing squad or life in jail.
His sentence and conditions contrast sharply with the 20-year sentence handed down to Schapelle Corby on Friday.
This week Marciano, 36, was spending his days outside the jail on work release.
A NSW Corrective Services department spokesman said he had to be paid the minimum wage of about $400 a week.
He said Marciano did not have access to this money, except to pay for his lunch and fares.
The rest was sent to his wife and two young children in Indonesia, or kept until he finished his sentence.
WHERE is the justice????????
A sad day for everyone; we can only hope that Schapelle is able to come home after a minimal sentence & that we can all contribute in some form to make her life easier whilst she is confined to Krobokan. Whilst this contribution may be in the form of some $’s and encouragement as part of an appeal it would be nice if we didn’t encourage any actions that would only serve to damage our relationship with the other 200 million Indonesians who aren’t part of the legal system. (In particular the People in Aceh who are rebuilding their lives & Balinese who depend on our custom) With Bali being so close to Australian shores & such a fun place to party it must be so difficult for many of us to accept that the local laws and legal system is a world apart from ours. (Dari orang belanda) Amongst my 22 x 1-2 month trips over the past 24 years I have shared cones with Sumateran Bataks & in 1983 accidently brought a small block of THC in/out of Bali within my first aid kit. No doubt if it had been detected I would have been out at Krobokan looking at the sawah through bars myself ?
Steve.M.
She has to be guilty because:
1) She claims to have neither noticed the additional weight or that the bag was a lot bulkier than before.
2) The vacuum-sealed bag was formed to take the same shape as the boogie board bag. This requires a lot of prep-work.
3) The bag was not locked with a padlock. If it was it would be impossible to claim that someone else planted it into the bag.
I think #2 is the strongest indication she is guilty.
While I do feel sorry for her I feel she has only herself to blame. What she should have done is simply google’d “drug smuggling indonesia” to see what the punishment is.
Yes, the Indonesian system is very hypocritical. Yes, it is very corrupt. Yes, you can buy weed in prison from the guards. But they still do have laws that can be enforced when they want to.
I feel a better punishment would be only 5 years in prison, but with an online webcam so that curious would-be drug mules could log on the Internet and watch in real time how Ms. Corby is now spending her life.
The solution is simple. Don’t give them an excuse to do what the government has done to Ms Corby. Better yet, stay out of Muslim nations – they will jump at the chance to screw over some white western non-muslim – Jihad can take many forms.
She has to be guilty because:
1) She claims to have neither noticed the additional weight or that the bag was a lot bulkier than before.
2) The vacuum-sealed bag was formed to take the same shape as the boogie board bag. This requires a lot of prep-work.
3) The bag was not locked with a padlock. If it was it would be impossible to claim that someone else planted it into the bag.
I think #2 is the strongest indication she is guilty.
While I do feel sorry for her I feel she has only herself to blame. What she should have done is simply google’d “drug smuggling indonesia” to see what the punishment is.
Yes, the Indonesian system is very hypocritical. Yes, it is very corrupt. Yes, you can buy weed in prison from the guards. But they still do have laws that can be enforced when they want to.
I feel a better punishment would be only 5 years in prison, but with an online webcam so that curious would-be drug mules could log on the Internet and watch in real time how Ms. Corby is now spending her life.
The solution is simple. Don’t give them an excuse to do what the government has done to Ms Corby. Better yet, stay out of Muslim nations
# Marijuana is grown in the Sydney area and shipped north, to Queensland. Not the other way round. Schapelle claims baggage handlers were shipping it from Brisbane to Sydney.
ummmmmmmmmm…. Ever heard of Nimbin? It’s a fair whack closer to Brisbane/GC than Sydney. FNQ is also reknowned for guerrilla dope farming.
# The drugs were in her boogie-board bag. A boogie board weighs about 2lbs. How did she not notice the extra weight and size (have you seen a pound of pot? Its big! ) of the 4.1kgs in her bag?
This would make sense IF only one person handled the bag at all points of the journey. Michael put the repaired board in the bag and put it in the car at Tugan. Schapelle carried it from the carpark to check-in at Bris. James picked it up off the floor near the bag carousel in Denpasar & carried it to the customs desk. No one person had a perception of the bag’s weight from beginning to end to even be able to discern a difference. Add to that a bunch of tired ppl just off the plane from around 7 hrs flying cattle-class, and I think even if on person had handled it, the difference might have been overlooked.
# Accounts of customs staff at the airport in Bali say Schapelle refused to open her bag when requested.
The customs agent had only a very basic command of English. An interpreter was required for Ch Nine/60 mins inteview of him in November 2005. There is a more than reasonable doubt that he did not understand the nuance difference between ‘that’s my luggage’ and ‘that’s my weed.’
Sorry, Nick. It could in fact be true that Schapelle is an innocent.
At very worst, she certainly cannot be proven beyond any reasonable doubt to have willfully and knowingly imported cannabis to Bali.
cheers
-weez
siteadmin/moderator
dontshootschapelle.com
Firstly, pat you’re as much of a fucking nut case as nick the dick, no doubt you live in indonesia. Perhaps it is you that took a ride on a motorbike unlicensed and obtained brain damage in the process hmm? thought so. Let me just say one thing, when the chief prosecutor read out the verdict for corby case, he said that corby had not proven her innocence, which in fact is incorrect, because it is not her job to prove her innocence, it is the prosecutions job to prove her guilt without any reasonable doubt, and they failed to do that. Face facts, indonesia is a haven corruption in every form, and this judge with his 500+ guilty verdicts is at the top of the pile of shit that is indonesia.
Firstly, pat you’re as much of a fucking nut case as nick the dick, no doubt you live in indonesia. Perhaps it is you that took a ride on a motorbike unlicensed and obtained brain damage in the process hmm? thought so. Let me just say one thing, the chief prosecutor said that corby had not proven her innocence, which in fact is incorrect, because it is not her job to prove her innocence, it is the prosecutions job to prove her guilt without any reasonable doubt, and they failed to do that. Face facts, indonesia is a haven corruption in every form, and this judge with his 500+ guilty verdicts is at the top of the pile of shit that is indonesia.
2) The vacuum-sealed bag was formed to take the same shape as the boogie board bag. This requires a lot of prep-work.
The plastic bags containing the buds were NOT “vacuum sealed.” They were stapled shut.
-weez
siteadmin/moderator
dontshootschapelle.com
#The plastic bags containing the buds were NOT “vacuum sealed.” They were stapled shut.
If it was stapled shut rather than compressed and vacuum sealed then it should have been even more obvious when 8 pounds of uncompressed weed was in a bag. While I can almost forgive her for not noticing the weight difference but the dramatic increased bulkyness of the bag could not have gone unnoticed. If it was 1 pound, maybe, but not 8 pounds.
BTW, I have found on other news article claiming it was stapled. They all claim it was vacuum sealed.
Thanks for voicing your views Nick. The Corby case seems to have brought out the worst in Australians. ACA and 60 Minutes have got everyone so riled up they’re almost ready to start World War III. The racism it has provoked is a real worry, and some of the comments above typify that.
The saddest thing is that the Australian goodwill after the tsunami hasn’t lasted, and some people are even withdrawing their pledges to charity. It seems like Australia is throwing a big tantie now that the decision hasn’t gone their way. It’s terrible to take that out on the poor homeless people of Aceh.
If exactly the same trial had been run in Australia (with an equally inept defence effort), the verdict would have been the same. If you’re caught with 4kg of drugs at any airport in the world, it’s considered a prima-facie case – you are guilty ‘at first sight’, and you have an uphill battle to counter that.
The sentence seems pretty severe in Australian terms, but Indonesia is a very different country. Prices are low and sentences high for exactly the same reason: life is cheap in an underdeveloped country. If you want an inexpensive holiday, you have to accept the whole package. If sentences weren’t so harsh in Asian countries then hundreds of their citizens would be lining up to bring drugs into Australia. Our heroin problem would be ten times as bad.
In answer to some of Nick’s points about the verdict:
For me the Indonesian brother-in-law did push up the plausibility scale – whether or not the couple live in Bali, it opens the possibility of local connections.
According to the American DEA, (http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/intel/04009/) QLD and NSW are the top two states where cannabis is grown in Australia. Of course, that still leaves the question: If you wanted to get 4kg of cannabis from Brisbane to Sydney, would you hatch some elaborate plan involving baggage handlers smuggling it between domestic airports via passenger luggage, or would you just jump in a car…?
According to the Sydney Morning Herald Corby even lied under oath:
‘Asked by Judge Sirait what contact she had had with marijuana, Corby said she had come across it only in drug education classes at school. She gave a quite different response to 60 Minutes last year. “Oh, I experimented.” ‘
While I can understand that someone might panic in such a situation, it puts a different spin on her thruthfulness. Forget all that stuff her mother said after the verdict about ‘she swore on the Bible’ – it doesn’t mean anything.
But none of this seems to matter to the Australian shock-jocks and chequebook journalism. Schapelle is just a sweet innocent young lady, and apparently all Indonesians are corrupt monkeys.
Guilty or innocent, I really wish the whole Schapelle episode hadn’t happened in the first place. The law is a blunt instrument in any country, and there will always be some doubt. But Indonesia can hardly turn a blind eye to every Australian who arrives in the country with 4 kilos of Mary Jane in their luggage, just because we helped after the tsunami. If we want another country to have respect for our legal system, then we need to have respect for theirs. The sooner Australia gets over it, the better.
Ozzorro
Melbourne
Nick
I appreciate your point of view, it is a view that understands the Indonesian legal system and does not present an emotive bleat because this pretty young thing has been found guilty. I have an open mind about her guilt or innocence, but the overriding factor here is the integrity of the Indonesian legal system and they have stepped up to the challenge.
Someone stashed the dope, it was found in her luggage and until someone else puts their hand up it is Schapelle’s responsibility.
The Corby’s are certainly not presenting well and ‘dodgey’ parasites such as Ron Bakir are also enjoying the spoils – he has even registered Schapelle’s name as a business.
I am an Australian who loves Bali and respects the Indonesians. My guess is that this circus will be over and a diplomatic fix will be put into place – only hope the same ‘fix’ is offered to other Australian’s jailed in other Asian prisons. Don’t think so, just these red necked Queenslanders!
NICK -
There are a lot of sons & daughters of Indonesian politians studying at univerisities across Australia. I know for a fact that lots of them are in the party scene here. I wonder what would happen if some Australian Customs Official catches one of them trying to import drugs into our country. I bet that would speed up justice!
I can not wait for that to happen. As far as I am concerned (and all my friends) I condemn Bali to no visits for 20 years.
LET HOPE SOME INDONESIAN STUDENT
ALL I CAN SAY UNFORTUNATELY IS “BYE BYE BALI”
Hmm, I though he went to South Africa.
Will they still broadcast Schapelle’s Show while he is in prison?
NICK -
There are a lot of sons & daughters of Indonesian politians studying at univerisities across Australia. I know for a fact that lots of them are in the party scene here. I wonder what would happen if some Australian Customs Official catches one of them trying to import drugs into our country. I bet that would speed up justice!
I can not wait for that to happen. As far as I am concerned (and all my friends)
ALL I CAN SAY UNFORTUNATELY IS “BYE BYE BALI”
As a Westerner here in Canada. I am outraged by this entire case. I will be honest, I knew nothing about this case until Thursday of last week. I have read all the information on everything regarding Ms. Corby, I do feel she is innocent. She was handed 20 years for POT. This is ridiculous!
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=act%20of%20terrorism
“act of terrorism
n : the calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimindation or coercion or instilling fear”
Someone please tell if I am wrong, but the Balinese and Indonesians, according to the Standard English dictionary are classified as terrorists. So why are we negotiating with these people?
Not saying we should start a war, but these 3rd world poverty nations, really need to stop terrorizing the free world innocent civilians who try to help these countries by touring there country.
I am sure most of this is political, and the prosecution clearly states that.. They said they want to give her a life sentence to teach other people a lesson and not smuggle drugs into Bali.
As my final words, this is an act of terrorism, what is the difference between this case, and any other terrorist act?
Clearly there will be a life lost, if she does not get an appeal, or a pardon, she is likely to commit suicide or get killed.
So who the real criminal in the end, is it Indonesia for being the terrorists, or is it the Free world countries, for not doing anything about this?
As a Westerner here in Canada. I am outraged by this entire case. I will be honest, I knew nothing about this case until Thursday of last week. I have read all the information on everything regarding Ms. Corby, I do feel she is innocent. She was handed 20 years for POT. This is ridiculous!
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=act%20of%20terrorism
“act of terrorism
n : the calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimindation or coercion or instilling fear”
Someone please tell if I am wrong, but the Balinese and Indonesians, according to the Standard English dictionary are classified as terrorists. So why are we negotiating with these people?
Not saying we should start a war, but these 3rd world poverty nations, really need to stop terrorizing the free world innocent civilians who try to help these countries by touring there country.
I am sure most of this is political, and the prosecution clearly states that.. They said they want to give her a life sentence to teach other people a lesson and not smuggle drugs into Bali.
As my final words, this is an act of terrorism, what is the difference between this case, and any other terrorist act?
Clearly there will be a life lost, if she does not get an appeal, or a pardon, she is likely to commit suicide or get killed.
So who the real criminal in the end, is it Indonesia for being the terrorists, or is it the Free world countries, for not doing anything about this?
This whole Corby thing is definetly designed and executed to make people fight each other, anyone who logically observe the whole thing will definetly know that.
The same goes for the Bali bomb, the Australian Embassy bomb, Timor Leste’s ‘liberation’, Iraq’s ‘liberation’, Indonesia’s ‘liberation’, the Guantanomo Bay incident, and so on.
This sort of thing is capable of making some people fight each other due that some people seems to be ignorant on some things and don’t realize that the people who are currently in controls of the Indonesian government are the same ones who are currently in controls of the Australian government and other ‘official’ governments in the world.
These same people also controls mass media around the world, big tourist companies, big airline companies, human rights organizations, ‘terror’ organisation, anti-’terror’ organisation, drug makers, anti-drugs organizations, and so on.
If you follow ‘their’ words, sure you wouldn’t find any connection between all of ‘their’ ‘proxies’. However if you use your own instinct (and not the instinct ‘they’ installed on you), you will know that all of them obeyed the same master and all of them are just mere ‘proxies’.
Personally, I don’t care on whether Corby is innocent or guilty. That’s none of my business or problem.
It’s her business, it’s her problem, it’s also the business and problem the people associated with the whole thing (the baggage handlers, the airports, the airline companies, the courts, and so on).
Ask yourself, if this isn’t your business or problem, why should you be all concern about it?
The problem with the world today might not be people not caring about other people, but instead more about people messing around with things that aren’t their business in the first place.
Now… What about this so called drug problems?
Easy, decriminalize drug making, dealing, and trafficking. That would have eliminate this whole thing. Interestingly, it’s only after the ‘reformation’ that Indonesia’s drug laws become stricter.
Perharps Corby should have made a plea to the former President Suharto to bail her out? Assuming that she don’t want to be proven guilty or serve time, maybe she was threatened to ‘accept’ the verdict guily to save her family back home from suffering (maybe someone back home have a case against her family?), or maybe coming back home and living back home would be a more scarrier experiences (Indonesia is where many people escaped to when they’re in trouble, not the other way around), or maybe she think can make more money by playing the innocent victim, and so on.
It would have been much better to make a plea at Suharto than to make a plea at Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono who is only a mere weak stooge like George Walker Bush, John Howard, Tony Blair, and so on.
As for what happened if there’s a boycott on Indonesia and/or Bali.
Australia got lots more to lose than Indonesia should things gone for the worse. Sure both countries are capable of living on their own, especially Indonesia with lots of natural resources and people (Indonesia don’t need tourism or even foreign debts… er, I mean ‘aids’, those things are usually force feed by foreign parties), but Australia would have their routes severly disconnected.
I don’t know on why some Australians gone nutty of the whole boycott thing, either for this one or another or another or another.
Are some of them trying to make people fight each other? Or are some of them aren’t actually Australians and/or have any loyalty toward Australia and therefore are trying to make Australia lose a lot? Or some of them lack common sense? Or are some of them are just plain on too much drugs and/or alcohols?
I have read with interest these blogs and also had a healthy argument on the weekend whether Schapelle is innocent or not.
Stand out dot points:
. why would you take only 4 kgs to Bali, if you were going to smuggle this shit, man, wouldn’t you want to make it worthwhile? What would 4ks be on the street $$$$$ what? SWEET FANNY ADAMS!!!!
. wouldnt you make it difficult for the dope to be detected?
.seems suss that the CCTV wasn’t working at that time
.there has been such controversy as to whether the dope was vacuum packed or just stapled. If it was stapled then the obvious bulge would be noticeable or the “bogeyman” had a lot of time flatening it into Schapelle’s body board bag.
. is she covering up for her brother, has he anything to do with this, isnt he a regular pothead in trouble with the law?
One thing is certain must we hurt innocent balinese people who rely on us to feed them via our visits? Would this make any difference if we boycotted Bali and made the economy suffer? Who are we hurting , the poor people, not the dictatorial beauracrats with fascism on their minds and their draconian laws.
We should find a way to hurt these bastards that are the very scum of life that protect the rich and the guilty and hurt the innocent.
I have read with interest these blogs and also had a healthy argument on the weekend whether Schapelle is innocent or not.
Stand out dot points:
. why would you take only 4 kgs to Bali, if you were going to smuggle this shit, man, wouldn’t you want to make it worthwhile? What would 4ks be on the street $$$$$ what? SWEET FANNY ADAMS!!!!
. wouldnt you make it difficult for the dope to be detected?
.seems suss that the CCTV wasn’t working at that time
.there has been such controversy as to whether the dope was vacuum packed or just stapled. If it was stapled then the obvious bulge would be noticeable or the “bogeyman” had a lot of time flatening it into Schapelle’s body board bag.
. is she covering up for her brother, has he anything to do with this, isnt he a regular pothead in trouble with the law?
One thing is certain must we hurt innocent balinese people who rely on us to feed them via our visits? Would this make any difference if we boycotted Bali and made the economy suffer? Who are we hurting , the poor people, not the dictatorial bureaucrats with fascism on their minds and their draconian laws.
We should find a way to hurt these bastards that are the very scum of life that protect the rich and the guilty and hurt the innocent.
Fuck Bali, Fuck Indonesia, Fuck their Corrupt justice system and the Judges that go with it (may they all swallow their tongues). What is this world coming to ? And to the dump fuck customs officer, how much did you get paid ? I wish nothing but pain for you you heartless fuck
Fuck Bali, Fuck Indonesia, Fuck their Corrupt justice system and the Judges that go with it (may they all swallow their tongues). What is this world coming to ? And to the dump fuck customs officer, how much did you get paid ? I wish nothing but pain for you. you heartless fuck
Fuck Bali, Fuck Indonesia, Fuck their Corrupt justice system and the Judges that go with it (may they all swallow their tongues). What is this world coming to ? And to the dump fuck customs officer, how much did you get paid ? I wish nothing but pain for you. you heartless fuck
Lets face it folks Schappelle is guilt as sin. She needed a bit of dough for her hols and her sis called Mercedes offered her a good deal is she brought some Ozz weed over. She knew a lot of people interested in buying the weed from her partying in Bali. She also like her puff and because of Supply and Demand there was a market. Yes the sentence was ridiculous and too high but geez Corby never stood a chance in court. Its up to her to prove her innocence. Imean for Gods sake she wouldnt open her bag when asked by custom officers. What she should have done was PLAY THE GAME……this means she should have slipped the Custom Officer 500$ Cash in her passport and she would have been allowed to get through. Thats what i done…oops sorry would have done. Anyway all you lot shouting she is innocent and Nick is a toss pot will you all be sending in Schappelle money every month so she can bribe the guards and get puff smuggled in and nice eats. Hee hee
Regs Spark
Regs Spark
Why is everyone so convinced she is bloody innocent, and why take your shit out on the innocent people of bali, nobody will stop me from going back to bali again. I agree with Rory l think her brother has a lot to answer for. Robyn
Has anyone explored the idea that the drugs originated in Bali and were mistakenly or hurriedly placed in an in-coming bag rather than out-going luggage? One would need to observe the baggage traffic pattern. Drugs could be moved in and out of an airport using food carts or waste receptacles. How often do bags go temporarily missing in Bali or from Bali?
It seems that most smugglers passing thru security go to great lengths to disguise the stash by putting it in statues or in machinery. Was this stash a generic suppository for quick placement or was it tediously custom packaged to fit this particular board and bag?
I agree that intentionally lugging a bale of stinking, low value, bulky cannabis thru two security/checkpoints with x-ray machines, general heighten security, sniffing dogs and the death penalty for a slip up, does not make a lot of sense. Especially with the detection probability being close to 100% and the reality that sending pot to Bali is similar to taking coals to Newcastle; taking a product from a high value market and sending it to a low value market. Also, youngish women seem to be suspect from a terrorism angle and more closely scrutinized.
I believe the pot was local to Bali, unless complicated packaging rules out that possibility from a time perspective. Are there any pictures of the packaging?
To believe Corby’s defense story is to simultaneously admit that multi-million dollar airport security is not effective. A terrorist could plant a bomb using the same technique. I�m not so sure either government or airports/airlines or law enforcement are interested in �proving� her story is true. It�s like asking them to poke themselves in the eye.
Comment on weight and bulk. Was she wearing white when she traveled? She would not be lugging a lot of stuff around because her clothes would get dirty. Women are like that. Weight is relative, not much difference between heavy and heavier. I travel a lot and I can’t tell the difference. As far a bulk, depends how bulky the board bag was originally. Are these bags skin tight?
As far as the Indonesians are concerned, they are probably no more or less corrupt than anywhere else. Politics is politics. Abusing individuals to send �messages� to the general populace is common in all judicial systems. Aussies, can you say “transportation”, it’s your history. In America, with a prior non-violent record you can get life in prison for stealing some DVDs.
In America, a number of government, security cleared, Transportation Security Administration personnel have been arrested for stealing cash, jewelry, electronics from airport baggage as they rooted through it. It became newsworthy when several Hollywood movie stars were hit. A whole TSA gang was arrested in Florida for stealing.
In America you are not allowed to lock your bag, it will be cut off, and almost always you find a calling card from TSA on the bottom of the inside of your bag indicating it was searched. Leave locks and all valuables at home. Not sure why it was incriminating that Corby didn�t lock her bag.
Shit, she is guilty! She tried to bring some herb into Bali for her friends and she got busted! Just look at her…you can tell by her eyes that she did wrong. Hell, no-one would give a damn if she was some jacky; it’s just that she’s a stone hottie that anyone give a damn. Hell, Russell Crowe probably wants to bed her. Forget about it, she did the crime now she can do the time.
Wow Bali without Australians, fantastic. I think I’ll book my next trip now.
When you travel to foreign counties respect their customs and laws. Don’t compare their sentencing length 20 years compared to say 5 in Australia and moan. If you want to take that attitude then why didn’t you complain last time you bought a meal or a drink in Bali and offer to pay the same price as you would in Australia. You can’t have it both ways.
There can be very little doubt that Corby is guilty.
She is selfish, stupid and greedy. Personally, I feel 5-7 years would have been long enough, but she smuggled drugs to Indonesia, so what does she expect?
Proof she is guilty can be seen here:
http://indcoup.blogspot.com/
Yes, because buying a meal and being sentenced to 20 years of your life are so comparable, why don’t you go live in indonesia with all the other psychopaths.
to right Baal, off you go BaliRegular .. I hope your next… Be sure to lock your bags now
Australians, you are no better than Indonesians!!! What you did to my fellow 4 Japaneses give an example! And as for Corby’s case, I do believe SHE’S GUILTY, you prick!!! I am so happy that she must spend 20 years there! hahaha that’s our revenge for what you’ve done to our people. Live with that Australians! I remember you scared to death when our troops approached Papua and cried for help to MacArthur! I wish our troops were there so your grandies could feel how nice it was under colonization just like what the aborigins feel to you, morons!
Check this out guys, you’ll find an interesting story behind Corby’s case:
http://mikepannone.blogspot.com/2005/05/why-australians-are-stupid.html
This is an interesting artical printed in the Jakarta post yesterday. It sheds a bit of light on how things work over here and how the media hype may not have helped her.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/yesterdaydetail.asp?fileid=20050530.A03
If hope indeed that some knuckleheads Aussies boycott Bali. Maybe Bali would be a better place atleast.
I believe Schappelle is guilty, but i also beleive that the sentence is harsh. I’m not sure why the indonesians classify marijuana the same as cocaine and heroin. I think a 5 yr sentence is more appropriate, but it is well known that any drug trafficking imposes the death penalty.
Australians have been easily led by the media (most of which is sympathetic to schappele), and most of you forget that Amrose and one or two of his mates have been given the death penalty, so stop complaining about injustices in sentencing. People in Australia can get away with all sorts of shit on technicalities, and dont pretend its not uncommon.
The group she was travelling with probably had their story fugured out from the start and are sticking with it.
In Australia, if a judge has to decide between the word of a customs officer and civilian, whose word does he take? If this was about corruption, do you not think she could hve bought her way out of the shit she is in. $14,000 isnt that big a prospect in light of the alternatives.
I dont want to sling shit at anybody, but to those of you people being racist……get off this planet because there is no room for any of you, in any country!
YEP, a better place…. A place that gives Abu Bakar Bashir 2.5 years for killing over 200 people in the Bali bombings (With hard evidence present) and Schapelle 20 years (with no hard evidence)… What happens if you speed over there while driving ? 30 years ?
Mercedes Corby does not live in Bali. Her husband is Balinese and they were visiting. She is now staying in Bali to assist Schapelle. You should really get your facts right before you start mouthing off about guilt!
CrookedPlace:
No make no mistake, there’s no hard evidence on Abu Bakar Bashir’s involvement in Bali bombings. Bali bombers: Amrozi, Imam Samudera, etc. have been given death penalties. I believe you’re no fool, you use internet you browse for sources giving information regarding this issue, not just 1 side story fabricated by your silly media.
Jeff, my big applause for inserting the Jakarta Post article. It gives a very good insight, and, besides, clears up horrors they say about Indonesia.
Honestly, I never thought Indonesia was so barbaric the way Australians put it.
It’s just plain Australians’ arrogance.
Congratulations, Jeff!
I’ve had an interesting read of this blog..funny thing is I’m not suprised in the least of how many simple minded people there are in the world!
Anyhow the question is: Is Schapelle Corby Innocent or Guilty?
Unfortunately She and possibly her family are the only one’s who can honestly answer that question.
Here are my thoughts on the Matter!
There are only 2 options: 1. She took in the drugs, or 2. they were planted.
Let’s have an unbiased look:
Option.1
She knew about the MJ and tried to get it into Bali! Ok, I’ve pondered on it..and Honestly makes no sense to me but it is always possible!
Firstly, drugs are easily obtainable in Bali, having been to Bali on various occasions. Marijuana being the easiest, pretty much offered on every street corner, no joke! and Very Cheap something like 2 to 3 dollars per gram. Quality might be an issue, but it’s cheap and does the job.
Now considering that the market price in australia is around 20 dollars a gram. So..(Excuse the language)Why the Fuck would anyone smuggle in something that’s worth 1/10th the value on reselling???? Make’s no plausable sense, Even if you had contacts, selling to tourists..How much could you make? 20 bucks per gram? Better of selling in australia in my book and avoid the risk! Another thought, If quality of marijuana is an issue, and Bali being corrupt as it is? Why not produce there? Outdoor would be no problem, Tropical weather and police?? What Police!
Option.2
Drug’s being planted is far fetched but possible!
Corruption is not exclusive to Indonesia. It happens everywhere including Australia. If you have a job and get payed for doing it, you have already been bought. Everyone’s looking for a better job with more pay..true? So some baggage handlers are corrupt? If anyone reading this, didn’t know that..Where have you been living..in the bush? lol
Anyhow to Schapelles bag! If it was planted, Some fuckhead really stuffed up the shipment and sent it in the wrong bag and wrong flight. So If this is the case, Poor Schapelle, I feel very sorry for her!
As for banning Bali as a tourist destination…Comon, I knew Aussie have been rascist in the past.(Can you say “White Australia Policy”) But let’s be Honest, Australia has grown up and in general Australian’s arn’t red necks..So let’s stop acting like we were. Banning Bali is Wrong! Most people in Bali are hard workers and very poorly paid. Why make their lives harder then it is, especially after the hard times they had with the Bali Bombings. Have some compassion for these poor people and don’t blame them. What we should do is pressure the Australian Govenment into investigating what really happened and finding the real culprits (If that is the case)and getting her out! Ohhh I forgot, Since when does the Australian Government give a fuck about it’s citizens.
On the whole: Indonesia does have draconian laws (It’s a fact) and no one who is innocent should be in jail for any amount of time none the less 20 years!
I’ve had an interesting read of this blog..funny thing is I’m not suprised in the least of how many simple minded people there are in the world!
Anyhow the question is: Is Schapelle Corby Innocent or Guilty?
Unfortunately She and possibly her family are the only one’s who can honestly answer that question.
Here are my thoughts on the Matter!
There are only 2 options: 1. She took in the drugs, or 2. they were planted.
Let’s have an unbiased look:
Option.1
She knew about the MJ and tried to get it into Bali! Ok, I’ve pondered on it..and Honestly makes no sense to me but it is always possible!
Firstly, drugs are easily obtainable in Bali, having been to Bali on various occasions. Marijuana being the easiest, pretty much offered on every street corner, no joke! and Very Cheap something like 2 to 3 dollars per gram. Quality might be an issue, but it’s cheap and does the job.
Now considering that the market price in australia is around 20 dollars a gram. So..(Excuse the language)Why the Fuck would anyone smuggle in something that’s worth 1/10th the value on reselling???? Make’s no plausable sense, Even if you had contacts, selling to tourists..How much could you make? 20 bucks per gram? Better off selling in Australia in my book and avoid the risk! Another thought, If quality of marijuana is an issue, and Bali being corrupt as it is? Why not produce there? Outdoor would be no problem, Tropical weather and police?? What Police!
Option.2
Drug’s being planted is far fetched but possible!
Corruption is not exclusive to Indonesia. It happens everywhere including Australia. If you have a job and get payed for doing it, you have already been bought. Everyone’s looking for a better job with more pay..true? So some baggage handlers are corrupt? If anyone reading this, didn’t know that..Where have you been living..in the bush? lol
Anyhow to Schapelles bag! If it was planted, Some fuckhead really stuffed up the shipment and sent it in the wrong bag and wrong flight. So If this is the case, Poor Schapelle, I feel very sorry for her!
As for Banning Bali as a tourist destination…Comon, I knew Aussie’s have been rascist in the past.(Can you say “White Australia Policy”) But let’s be Honest, Australia has grown up and in general Australian’s arn’t Red Necks..So let’s stop acting like we were. Banning Bali is Wrong! Most people in Bali are hard workers and very poorly paid. Why make their lives harder then it is, especially after the hard times they had with the Bali Bombings. Have some compassion for these poor people and don’t blame them. What we should do is pressure theAustralian Govenment into investigating what really happened and finding the real culprits (If that is the case)and getting her out!
Indonesia does have draconian laws (It’s a fact) and no one who is innocent should be in jail for any amount of time.
Thanks Jeff for that article from the Jakarta Post.
>This becomes clearer if we look at the case of
>Clara Elena Umana, the Mexican who was sentenced
>by the same court in 2001 to seven years. She got
>just a third of the sentence that Corby received,
>for smuggling more than three times the marijuana.
>With sentence reductions through good behavior,
>the Mexican woman will likely only end up serving
>a little more than half the sentence.
Just so you know, that the Mexican woman arrived in Bali with a male friend. The male friend Victor Manuela Navaro Garcia is in the Kerobokan Jail, for life.
Oh, and I believe the at least some of the cocaine was in a boogie board bag.
I’m not familiar with the case any more than that.
Good observation AltOpt, I often wonder why people use the same internet technology but fail to have the same capacity to use it as a powerful tool to search for the same information.
As to Vent regarding the value of marijuana in Bali you should read this (I wonder how people can’t use internet properly and get the true fact in hand):
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2005/05/25/1116950758434.html?oneclick=true
Story about baggage handlers? I feel pity to them since it’s a big coincidence that the shape of the plastic bag used to wrap the marijuana fit in well with her boogie board bag…
But this is a mere opinion: I believe she’s not guilty. Why? Because the one who’s really guilty is either her brother or her father or both who planted it there. That’s why she’s so angry to her family, isnt it logic? and I’m so sorry for to her for that, for her fate.
Watanabe,
Is it true that the Aussies cried for help to MacArthur when you approached Papua? That’s cool!
How about this Australians? Why didn’t you cry for justice for my fellow Japaneses at that time?
http://www.theage.com.au/text/articles/2005/05/26/1116950814783.html
Zeb, you Americans should learn more about your own history. After withdrawing from the Philippines, MacArthur set his base in Australia. When our troops approached Papua, they were scared to death and urged MacArthur to organize fight as soon as possible..
Watanabe,
The problem with this world, is that sometimes two idiots like your parents are often allowed to reproduce and pollute the gene pool, and raise some narrow minded moron like yourself.
Did you personally lead the offensive that took most of the native people of South East asia, and “Freed” them from white european rule? If so, the millions of South East asians that your troops abducted, enslaved, raped or killed would probably have something to say to you, not to mention the thousands of British, American and Australians who your troops butchered and tortured, or the widows of thousands of your own troops that you sent into the meat grinder for no other reason than to find oil and steel for your war effort. (The more things change..)
I’m not sure which history books you have been reading, but MacArthur actually set up his HQ in Australia because he was ordered to evacuate the Phillipines. Furthermore, the whole pacific campaign was run to a set plan of stepping stones, leading to Japan, not by the request of Australia asking the US to fight off the Japanese. Hence why the Americans landed on Guadalcanal first, not New Guinea.
How about staying on the topic here, which is Schapelle Corby? Instead you rant and rave about something which occured over 60 years ago, and which most people acknowledge was one of the biggest waste of lives in history for both sides.
Nick, I applaude your right to say exactly what yout think on this site. I actually agree with you, I have been suspicious of her innocence from day 1.
What I think people need to remember is that Indonesia is entitled to it’s laws, be they corrupt or not, and any visitors to Indonesia need to be aware that they are covered by the laws of that country. It is not up to the Australian Govt to step in and try to change the system, I feel that the Aussie Govt will do a prisoner exchange and she will serve her sentence in Australia anyway.
Hope Ika is still keeping well – not long to go now. Good Luck.
If you lott want Corby out then drop the media coverage and get the spotlight off Indo right now.
There is not a single fucking chance that you will get this girl back to Aus with the amount of attention focused on the Indo authorities at the moment.
They will not back down or back off at the moment, they will lose too much face.
Let your country’s top level liasers and diplomats sort this mess out by dealing direct with the Indo boys in the shadows where money can change hands without any fuss or media interference.
And stop talking bullshit about boycotting the country, thats only hurting the people that need your help the most and messing yourselves up in the process – you are the guys getting bad rep at the moment for your ‘xenophobia’ not the Indos.
Come here and support the Indonesian locals who, for the large part are a bunch of decent people.
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