Buying land and building a house or a business is a dream for many people in Bali especially outsiders. The reality is that owning land and living a stress free life is harder than you think and the process is filled with pitfalls.
One of the problems westerners have is they cannot legally own land in Bali and have to put the land in the name of a local, which has its own risks. I have talked to many people who own apartments and guest houses about how they handle the situation. Here in Bali the expat scene is a bit like southern California where you get people from all over world moving to a desirable place to start a new life and do not want to leave, often being prepared to do things they would not do at home in order to stay. Telling lies is part of the deal and I find that if I ask the same person the same question one week apart I often get a different answer. One week they own land, next week they lease land, one week they own a guesthouse, next week someone else owns it and they are the manager.
The British Consul told me there are examples galore of people trying to buy land in East Bali and getting taken for a ride, largely because there is no official record of land and its the Brooklyn Bridge scenario of someone selling you land and a while later the real owner wanting it back.
That does not mean it is impossible but that you have to exercise caution when slapping down hard cash. An older Balinese gentleman once told me the way it goes. A farmer sells land to a westerner, builds himself a house on his remaining land, buys and car, a couple of motorbikes and after 5 years the money is gone. Okay he thinks, now I want my land back. As a westerner who are you going to go to? You hold a piece of paper that has no record and the police are all local.
I know an American guy who owns a couple of blocks of apartments. He has a 20 year lease and after that is up he will lose the apartments. Maybe he does no care and if he manages to rent them out continously will get back much more than he put in, allowing him to live in Bali and make a profit.
A recent article points to another side of the coin. Balinese are quick to offer land for sale, with little thought given to how it will be developed. I think this shortsightedness is an extension of their business style, the quick buck rather than a long term approach, which in turn is the result of a lack of education and training. Basically the island is steadily being developed and the locals are being left out of the picture.
Much of this development is from Java. A lot of the small guest house and shops are western. There is a lot of Balinese development around the island in terms of houses, small shops and those butt ugly concrete walls they love to erect. This development is outside of the tourist industry but is no doubt the result of trickle down economics from tourism.
I would personally like to see everyone act in a more responsible way and think about the future of the island. The government should make education a priority. A person can only evaluate their situation accurately if they have they tools to do so. The local government should implement strict zoning laws on new construction and perhaps make leasing the only way for outsiders to use land. The locals should realize what the have and why foreigners come to Bali. Destroying the island with reckless development will destroy their livelihood eventually when tourists do not see Bali as a paradise anymore. Foreigners starting a new business in Bali should realize their crafty ways rub off on each other and in order for people to live the kind of life they come here for scheisters need to be put in their place.
The rest of us are better of enjoying Bali for what we know it to be, a different environment with friendly people, unique culture and a place like no other.
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I have lived on the island of Maui for over 30 years and see a distressing similarity to Bali.
Conde Naste has voted Maui “best island in the world ” for many years.
There is no more aloha in Hawaii, it has turned into an urban island with any Joe Blow from New Jersey with a credit making it his Hawaiian hideaway.
The greedy realtors and their signs driving out to the bukit is just the beginning. The gated communities blocking access to the ocean will follow and eventually the local community will be left behind.
I say do a kuta crawl, collect all the realtors and their lawyers, drive them out to Serangan and put them in the dump where they belong.
A Hui Hou
Don’t know how he big companies handle it. I have seen some brochures for real estate companies that offer apartments build on land with a 99 year lease. Maybe they do something similar.
Here in Bali land is measured in ara which is a 100 sq meter block (10 by 10). In Kuta / Seminyak that could go for 300m rp, although no one is likely to sell in Kuta.
Out in west Bali and the norh coast you are looknig at 15m rp and lower. Below 2m rp in some of the most remote parts.
Hi Nick,your article on the ugly concrete buildings is how l also feel.Driving to Gianyar last October l was stunned at the amount of buildings that sprung up.They were not there two months earlier.All the beautiful farm land and the essence of Bali is being destroyed by greedy investors.I agree with you.The local government should also take more pride in the Bali that was
In 20 years time there will be nothing left.
Gina, agree totally. The development in Bali is unregulated and tends to be ‘ribbon development’ getting strung out down a main road. Driving on the main roads here is not pleasant due to the mess they have created and the incredible air pollution caused by the unregulated emmisions from deisel trucks and 2-stroke motorbikes.
The good thing is that when you get a block behind the concrete there is usually a rice field.
Ika and I went for a ride in the Abeansemal area and after getting off the road we were greeted by lovely landscapes.
I used to live in Bali 5 years ago and went back to visit the island last fall. I was surprised with the growing of real estate business in Bali. Most are owned by the fereigners who I beleieved bought the land very cheap. The locals will stay poor their rice fields were robbed by the foreigners!!! ![]()
Kembalikan Baliku!!!
I use to living in bali.
I notice that foreigner cannot buy any property in indonesia.
i think the foreigner do not robing local.
because in indonesian law foreigner cannot buy any property in indonesia.mosttimes foreigner got rob by local.
what is happening is The following information pertains to purchasing land in Bali:
1.All sales agreements are made in front of a Lawyer.
2.An Indonesian’s name must appear on all copies of land entitlements. ( This is a requirement by the Indonesian Gov. It requires a land owner to have an Indonesian sponsor. The normal arrangement in Bali since day one is to have a standard agreement with the said friend/sponsor. The deal being; If and when the land owner sells his Bali land holding in the future he will then pay his friend/sponsor 5% of the sale price to return the favor. Sponsors can be arranged !
that what happen foreigner cannot have full ownership that they pay for their land and house in bali.
coz most of time foreigner got rip off after purchaseing land in bali.
that has happen with most the foreigner people i know who living in bali before.
Trust me, we all hope the world ends a lot sooner than 80 for you, Toney.
I wonder what type of legal arrangement the big comapnies in nusa dua have established that lets them build such large resorts like the westin/sheraton monstrosity?
Surely their western shareholders on the NYSE would have a problem knowing that bribery was/is involved for continued land ‘posession’.