Schapelle Corby seems sweet enough. She takes care of her appearance, sits attentively and cries at the right moment. I might cry too if I was in her position, locked in Kerobokan jail with 20 years of porridge. From early on in this saga I had my suspicions about her innocence.
For me things fell into place when I heard that her sister, Mercedes, lives here in Bali full time. Schapelle was described as a straight arrow, non-drugs user, no criminal record etc. If she were bringing over a large quantity of drugs to be sold, she would have to have local contacts. You do not just sit in your guesthouse on Poppies II selling marijuana to everyone who passes by. No, you need your contacts.
Maybe Schapelle was dating a local Balinese guy, I thought. Maybe he talked her into it and will handle (and profit from) the distribution. Then I heard about her sister and things started to make sense. People have said the sister is a partier and who knows, she could have asked Schapelle to bring the drugs over in exchange for rent and a good time. Schapelle might not be the sharpest tool in the shed, maybe that sounded like a reasonable request to her.
Here are some bullet points to ponder:
I hope a way can be found so that Schapelle can be repatriated and serve her sentence in Australia. I also hope that the sentence will be reduced and that she has another chance of leading a fulfilling life.
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Why indeed would a beautiful young lady risk her own life by bringing drugs to Bali? It just doesn’t make sense. Especially considering that the punishment is ridiculously unjust. Its a plant for crying out loud. Im surprised the rest of the world hasn’t declared war on the Republic of Indonesia for crimes against humanity.
What difference does it make that she doesn’t know what direction the drugs would normaly travel? If anything, that would work in her defence. Why speculate on how she reacted when Bali airport staff asked to search her luggage? When was it detected? She may have had her boogie board in or strapped too another bag or trolley. We don’t know this. But it would be interesting to find out.
INDONESIANS CAN GO TO HELL!!!!
I WILL NEVER GO TO BALI, WE HELP YOU WHEN UR COUNTRY WAS IN A TIME OF CRISIS BUT YOU CAN’T SAVE A YOUNG INNOCENT GIRL’S LIFE! SCREW YOU!
YOUR LEGAL SYSTEM IS UNJUST YOU GIVE 3 YEARS TO THE GUY WHO KILLED 88 AUSTRALIANS IN THE BALI BOMBING BUT YOU GIVE 20 YEARS TO A GIRL WHO INNOCENTLY DID NOTHING WRONG!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE UNJUST YOU SMELLY BASTARDS
So true samantha… very sad isnt it
You are obviously an apologist for Indonesia and this blog clearly demonstrates a conflict of interest on your part. Any country that has such draconian laws for pot possession is fascist. Stop apologizing and confront the fact that its legal system is repressive and this is the same whether she is guilty or not.
Re:Here are some bullet points to ponder:
Marijuana is grown in the Sydney area and shipped north, to Queensland. Not the other way round. Schapelle claims baggage handlers were shipping it from Brisbane to Sydney.
What a lot of rubbish, Any one with any sense would know that a tropical area is vastly better for growing Cannabis sativa (Marijuana)
From an Aussie who lives in New South Wales.
(Why would an Australian smuggle pot from Australia, to bali when the pot is a hundred times more expensive in Australia??)
The drugs were in her boogie-board bag. A boogie board weighs about 2lbs. How did she not notice the extra weight and size (have you seen a pound of pot? Its big! ) of the 4.1kgs in her bag?
At least be accurate, a boogieboard and bag and flippers does not weigh 2lbs, in fact I suspect you have not only underestimated the weight of the boogiebag you have vastly over estimated the weight of your brain.
Accounts of customs staff at the airport in Bali say Schapelle refused to open her bag when requested.
The account does vary, and by coincidence the cameras that are in the customs area weren’t working that very day.
No grand paranoid conspiracy here, its simple the prosecution’s case is weakened by the inoperation of its own security cameras.
Living here in Bali I hear expats talk about stuff. Hearsay is not evidence for sure, but the hearsay surrounding the Corbys leans towards a guilty verdict.
The only leaning towards I give your third party hearsay is the leaning towards the bar whilst you skull another bali beverage.
You’re a twit, and worse still a big mouthed twit.
I agree, dont blacklist Bali, blacklist simpletons like you.
Become an Indonesian now, have you? You certainly sound brainwashed to me. Our Feds are involved in investigations re our baggage handlers and there is info behind the scenes you just don’t know about. I just hope to God they can bring forward the real culprits sooner rather than later. As for you… it can easily happen to you - I will remember your name and make sure I don’t give a hoot when I read about it.
so cos shes got a pretty face, cries from time to time and has turned into a media feeding frenzy, she must be innocent!
she was stupid enough to carry 4 kilos of weed to a muslim country, she got off lightly.
why would someone plant the stuff on her when they can so easily transport weed across land and sea ports in indonesia.
Fuck you Bali, Fuck you Indonesia.. Schapelle is innocent, your customs offices are as corrupt as your police and your so called court judges.. I hope your whole fucking country rots in hell, kills each other with car bombs or get swallowed up by another massive Tsunami.. I gave $2500 to you fuckers last Christmas.. Never again you can all rot in hell you cunts..
Big,
I can appreciate your anger, but let’s not take out our revenge on the victims of the tsunami. They needed help, and Australians did the right thing by helping them. It shows the purity of the Australian character.
But one point I want to make — I read that at the prison where Schapelle is likely to spend a good stretch of years, it is possible to buy marijuana from the prison guards. The irony is that she is prison for allegedly smuggling marijuana into Indonesia, but once behind bars she could freely buy it from guards who make money from dealing drugs on the side.
That, to me, is what Indonesia is all about. I do like Indonesia and Indonesian people but it is a country of double standards, and I think the average Australian has trouble understanding how Indonesians think. I used to party with two brothers in Sumatra — one was a journalist, his brother a policeman. Every night we used to go to the police station to pick up our nightly batch of Ecstasy and other pills, then we headed to the clubs. The good news which Schapelle might be stubborn to accept, is that she can make things easier for herself, if she starts playing the game Indonesian style. For example:
Learn how to use bribery. It is part of the culture here. I have heard that life in an Asian prison is not so bad if you have enough money to bribe the prison guards and officials on a daily basis (and I am sure she will have no trouble with money, all of Australia is behind her, and she has financial backers!)
I wouldn’t want to be in her shoes, but she can play this situation if she wants to. My opinion is, she has already played the situation pretty well, she knows how to work the media, and that is a big advantage for her. She has a good set of cards at the moment. So how will she play the next round?
Schapelle sister does not live in bali, that was just a rumour. Her sister Mercedes lives in Queensland where her and her husband own a business. As for a balinese boyfriend, this was only Schapelles 2nd visit to bali, her last one being in 2000. Schapelle worked xtra hrs and saved hard for over a year for this trip to bali. Unfortunatley Nick u seem to have made a judgement on many rumours that have been circulating.
The sister connection makes it all fall into place for me, too.
In Australia much has been of the fact that the marijuana costs less in Bali than Australia. But I can imagine that someone running a surf shop would like to get hold of some “clean” stuff. No doubt the cops have a handle on the trade there, and the nett cost after all the harassment may well make it worthwhile to import it.
What I would like to know is whether she really did go through the red channel at customs by mistake, or was caught on the basis of a tip-off. If so, such information would never be revealed in court.
Nick - you’re an idiot and loser of the highest magnitude. Internationally it is highly known that Indonesia’s courts and legal system have serious corruption issues. Where have you been living - under a rock? Most doubtedly! The fact that the evidence was mishandled by airport security, and that evidence was suggested by the authorities yet never produced (video tape) but used as “fact” during the trial shows that this country will use any means to boost their “attention and commitment” in solving their drug-trafficking problems.
Logically it doesn’t make sense, who smuggles pot INTO Mexico, Hawaii, or Indonesia? I’m sorry no one is that stupid. Indonesian tourism should be boycotted and financial aid (excluding tsunami relief) should be stopped immediately. The U.S., Great Britain, and Australia diplomatic authorities should demand Corby’s immediate release, and demand that the actually events surrounding this injustice be thoroughly investigated to prevent it from occurring again to another innocent tourist.
Nick - you an idiot and loser of the highest magnitude. Internationally it is highly known that Indonesia’s courts and legal system have serious corruption issues. The fact that the evidence was mishandled by airport security, and that evidence was suggested by the authorities yet never produced but used as fact during the trial shows that this country will use any means to boost there “attention and commitment” in solving their drug-trafficking problems.
Logically it doesn’t make sense, who smuggles pot into Mexico, Hawaii, or Indonesia? I’m sorry no one is that stupid. Indonesian tourism should be boycotted and financial aid (excluding tsunami relief) should be stopped immediately. The U.S., Great Britain, and Australia diplomatic authorities should demand Corby’s immediate release and demand the actually events surrounding this injustice to prevent it from occurring again to another innocent tourist.
Lydia,
Thanks for calling me a loser. I won’t waste my time slinging shit, but will say the drug trade is all about supply a demand.
There are all kinds of drugs that get shipped in here, by westerners, who know the consequences.
Who would ship marijuana to Bali? Someone who had customers who needed high end Australin weed.
Nick,
How do you know that cannabis is shipped north from sydney.Qld grows cannabis both indoor and outdoor.Its grown in mass in S.A and Vic.A fact would be that sydney is the biggest consumer of cannabis not the biggest producer.
Shipped north to where? population size plays a key role here.
The weight of the bag was not noticed because she checked her bag in Brisbane and did not see it till Bali.If she refused to open her bag, well so what, that does not make her guilty.
She got caught at Bali airport with a large amount of cannabis, fact. The police did not bother with prints because to them the case closed, fact.
To prove yourself innocent in a inquisitorial law system like Balis is imposible. The cops got themselves a blue eye devil loaded to the teeth with cannabis and that was that. All the facts they needed were right there in her manta bag and an example to the rest had to be made. No DRUGS IN BALI.Which is bullshit because the place is flooded with drugs,drug-dealers,pimps and whores of all ages and gender. You are offered all this in a matter of two blocks or less, fact.
Now, I dont know if she’s guilty or not, I dont know if she is that dumb. I do remember saying back in November that no matter what, she was fucked. She was up against a system that does not allow probable excuses like corrupt baggage handlers back home and no way was it going to buckle under international pressure.I feel for Schapelle and wish her good luck in her appeal.
Bad news travels fast Nick but gossip travels faster. You and your pack of expats are cheap worthless gossip-mungers, useless to anyone except the Bali anti-drugs fanatics and the corrupted pigs. Did you cheer when the verdict was handed you swine!
Nick, I hope to hear from you soon.If not,than get well and trully…
rob.
Nick,
How do you know that cannabis is shipped north from sydney.Qld grows cannabis both indoor and outdoor.Its grown in mass in S.A and Vic.A fact would be that sydney is the biggest consumer of cannabis not the biggest producer.
Shipped north to where? population size plays a key role here.
The weight of the bag was not noticed because she checked her bag in Brisbane and did not see it till Bali.If she refused to open her bag, well so what, that does not make her guilty.
She got caught at Bali airport with a large amount of cannabis, fact. The police did not bother with prints because to them the case closed, fact.
To prove yourself innocent in a inquisitorial law system like Balis is imposible. The cops got themselves a blue eye devil loaded to the teeth with cannabis and that was that. All the facts they needed were right there in her manta bag and an example to the rest had to be made. No DRUGS IN BALI.Which is bullshit because the place is flooded with drugs,drug-dealers,pimps and whores of all ages and gender. You are offered all this in a matter of two blocks or less, fact.
Now, I dont know if she’s guilty or not, I dont know if she is that dumb. I do remember saying back in November that no matter what, she was fucked. She was up against a system that does not allow probable excuses like corrupt baggage handlers back home and no way was it going to buckle under international pressure.I feel for Schapelle and wish her good luck in her appeal.
Bad news travels fast Nick but gossip travels faster. You and your pack of expats are cheap worthless gossip-mungers, useless to anyone except the Bali anti-drugs fanatics and the corrupted pigs. Did you cheer when the verdict was handed you swine?
Nick, I hope to hear from you soon.If not,than get well and trully…
rob.
So 8 pounds? Did she grab the bag at baggage pick up? What did the bag look like before and after? how compressed was the weed? since when do people traffic pot through Bali? 20 years….. I heard a quote “Swore on the bible” It must be the same in the courts here…. it doesn’t mean nothing your honor is your own…. And we all know the cops lie and frame people…, on a daily baises. Why didn’t she get the herb from the U.S? You can get a 50 pound bail off a semi from the “Hells Angels” 24/7 God made all seed bearing plants to be used….. A case of scotch is worse than a thousand pounds of buds… zzzzz zzzzz
So 8 pounds? Did she grab the bag at baggage pick up? What did the bag look like before and after? how compressed was the weed? since when do people traffic pot through Bali? 20 years….. I heard a quote “Swore on the bible” It must be the same in the courts here…. It doesn’t mean nothing your honor is your own…. And we all know the cops lie and frame people…, on a daily baises. Why didn’t she get the herb from the U.S? You can get a 50 pound bail off a semi from the “Hells Angels” 24/7 God made all seed bearing plants to be used….. A case of scotch is worse than a thousand pounds of buds… zzzzz zzzzz
So 8 pounds? Did she grab the bag at baggage pick up? What did the bag look like before and after? how compressed was the weed? since when do people traffic pot through Bali? 20 years….. I heard a quote “Swore on the bible” it must be the same in the courts here…. It doesn’t mean nothing your honor is your own…. And we all know the cops lie and frame people…, on a daily baises. Why didn’t she get the herb from the U.S? You can get a 50 pound bail off a semi from the “Hells Angels” 24/7 God made all seed bearing plants to be used….. A case of scotch is worse than a thousand pounds of buds… zzzzz zzzzz
So 8 pounds? Did she grab the bag at baggage pick up? What did the bag look like before and after? how compressed was the weed? since when do people traffic pot through Bali? 20 years….. I heard a quote “Swore on the bible” it must be the same in the courts here…. It doesn’t mean nothing your honor is your own…. And we all know the cops lie and frame people…, on a daily baises. Why didn’t she get the herb from the U.S? You can get a 50 pound bail off a semi from the “Hells Angels” 24/7 God made all seed bearing plants to be used….. A case of scotch is worse than a thousand pounds of buds… zzzzz zzzzz
I think is a horrible decision of the bali govt to act this way to tourists that provide them with substantial tourism dollars..we as Americans should intervene along with the Australian govt..are we just going to sit on the side lines and take it…the bali govt should be overthrown judges should be jailed (or even worse).it would be an OUTRAGE to let this girl sit an rot in prison…boycott bali and free this girl…DMG.
Have you no shame or sympathy on a girl with her life on the line? The justice system in Indonesia is flawed. I will support fully an extensive backlash and or boycott on anything Indonesia/Bali. Indonesian’s can be friendly but they are not our friends. Today is Schapelle, Tomorrow it could be one of us.
Mike, I don’t know who you are or what country you originate from or why you converted and became a Muslim…just to get married? First of all shame on you for using a religion that you don’t even live by…just to get what you want? Anyway, enough preaching about your lack of respect…I am not Muslim or a drug user or even condone drug use, and at the same time, I am stunned by the outcome of this case. I had planned on visiting Bali, but certainly not now. I have heard numerous accounts of others having drugs planted on them, as well as being solicited drugs (& sex) immediately from the airport!!!! What a messed up situation. Perhaps this girl was dumb enough to blatently put marijuana in her bag…logically, given her background, highly unlikely. Your opinion and stand on this issue is alarming. Not only is your moral integrity questionable, it seems that your common sense suffers as well. Good luck to you in your own life…as for this fiasco with Corby, I hope it leads to the downfall of tourism in Indonesia…let their economy thrive on their own corrupt behavior.
Nick…Just wanted to correctly address you and not Mike. His was the last blog that I read…I was definitely sending my comments to you Nick…my apologies to Mike!
NICK,
There I got your name right, not that it really matters who you are…once again my apologies for addressing you as Mike…anyway, just one more thing… I do want to say that I appreciate your comments that have gotten “under the skin” of many people, including myself. This is probably your intention, but in the long run it will cause people to take action against such a corrupt country. Too bad for the good people who live there, and then must submit to that kind of control. Enough said.
THOUSANDS OF MILES I SIT IN FRONT OF MY COMPUTER MESMERIZED OF THE WAY SCHAPELLES LIFE HAD BEEN HANDLED AND IT REALLY SUCKS.I WISH YOU THE VERY BEST OF GOD’S GRACE SCHAPELLE.I WOULD LIKE FOR SOMEONE TO PLEASE EMAIL ME THE JAIL ADDRESS SO WE WHO CARE FOR HER OVER HERE IN THE USA MAY SEND HER ANYTHING WE CAN FOR HER SUPPORT.STAY STRONG SCHAPELLE,GOD WILL WORK THINGS OUT FOR YOU,WE LOVE YOU AND FEEL WITH YOU,ALL THE WAY AROUND THE WORLD IN TEXAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
XCORPIO17@YAHOO.COM
SOME ONE SEND US HER JAIL FULL JAIL ADDRESS SOON……………..
well said nick…
Nick, thanks for the courage of giving an honest opinion, though it is against the popular beliefs. I don’t know whether she is guilty or not, but it is disgusting that this case has turned so many Australians racist! (or, have these people been always racist in the first place?)
For the rest of you, I am wondering if you would have reacted the same way, had Schapelle had a more exotic name, such as, Van Tong Nguyen?
Nick,
Your post above clearly betrays your obvious bias…perhaps you are doing this on purpose to drum up more hits to your blog, so that you may generate some more advertising revenue?
As someone living there (and married to a native, as I gathered from your blog) how can you possibly deny how corrupt the Indonesian system is and how inefficient the Indonesians are? Yes, most Balinese may have hearts of gold but that does not mean that they are purveyors of honesty and justice!
Boycotting Bali (and Indonesia) is the ONLY WAY that the Western world can send a signal.
Schapelle Corby - Sentenced 20 Years by Indo- Bali Court — David Harrison Levi - Beverly Hills, California 90210 USA
I was shocked by the sentencing of the Indonesian courts as reported news on CNN regarding the 20 year guilty verdict sentencing of Australian, Schapelle Corby for her involvement in attempting to smuggle marijuana out into Indonesia. I believe a proper and formal trial should be held in Australia to find Corby beyond a shadow of a doubt innocent or guilty as found. A crime has been committed here. If in fact it was planted in her luggage as she insists. Prosecutors have demanded Corby receives a life sentence, not the death penalty. Either way the sentencing and tactics of the court, its jails and judges are similar to those seen in the movie “Midnight Express” are not only unfair, unjustified and unwarranted, but the 20 year sentencing I find to be absurd in its nature and harsh punishment. I do not condone the use of illegal drugs, their sale or the smuggling of the same whether it be here in the United States or abroad, and yes, a criminal act has been done, but the punishment, should fit the crime. Yet, I’m not convinced that the courts findings or evidence was enough to find Corby guilty. With everything said and done, should after all the appeals and further high courts and court dates, hear her case and find Corby still guilty, a minimal sentencing or probation should be placed upon her by an Australian court, ONLY.
*Plot Summary for
Midnight Express 1978
Billy Hayes is caught attempting to smuggle drugs out of Turkey. The Turkish courts decide to make an example of him, sentencing him to more than 20 years in prison. Hayes has two opportunities for release: the appeals made by his lawyer, his family, and the American government, or the “Midnight Express”.
In addition, I believe that whatever the verdict, she belongs home in Australia.
The Indonesian’s that hold her future in their hands and who made the tragic decision to hand down a guilty verdict have held her in that filthy jail for longer than she should ever have been. Bring her home, whether to be free or imprisoned, there are too many other people suffering at the hands of the Indonesians, the same people that Australia has helped over and over again and still are. I can assure and guarantee that Indonesia will now, at their own hands never be the same again. Australian’s will boycott Indonesia and the ones that still go, will probably be going to do more harm than good. You should never bite the that feeds you.The Australian government must come to Corby’s assistance and standup for so unfair and unjust sentencing.
Please send me Schapelle address in jail - Thank You! Respectfully I remain; David Harrison Levi - Beverly Hills, CA 90210 United States of America
This poor girl is innocent. We all need to help her. We must reach out from all over the world not just Australia. This is having a big impact in the USA. I believe Bali will be affected very negative by this decision. The judges in this case are very stupid and unfair. They have no sympathy. They cliam they answer to god when in fact they answer to only political corruptness that is taking place.
It appears that the alternate to Corby’s arrest is that any person arrested coming into Bali with drugs just sais, “I didn’t know it was there”. That apparently is the end of the matter. I think westerners in Bali have forgotten it is part of Indonesia and have treated Bali as a western playground where anything goes. Thios has been a rude and timely shock. Drugs affect Asian countries a lot more than they do western countries. No drug rehab, or time to pick up a pension, while others do all the work while you languish around fucked on drugs.Asian countries, like most developing countries have to sink or swim.
Please get your facts right, Mercedes doesn’t live in Bali, she lives on the Gold Coast of Australia. Her husband doesn’t own any business in Bali. Merc was in Bali visiting his family for an extended stay before her oldest child started school this year.
you say
“Marijuana is grown in the Sydney area and shipped north, to Queensland. Not the other way round. Schapelle claims baggage handlers were shipping it from Brisbane to Sydney.”
Sorry, MJ is grown in the northern parts of Australia, where it is warmer.
I am really disappointed with this post Nick.
Nick - I hope your country does not suffer from the ignorance of you & your countrymen as I suspect it will. Australians do not like drug trafficers any more than Balinese however we prefer to not have resonable doubt involved when we exhibit justice.THIS WILL COST INDONESIA & THE BALINESE PEOPLE FAR MORE THAN THEY REALISE! ULTRA- CHEAP HOLIDAYS ARE ALREADY BEING ADVERTISED FOLLOWING THE VERDICT AND AUSTRALIANS ARE CHOSING OTHER DESTINATIONS FOR THEIR HOLIDAYS.
Dear Nick,
After reading your comments Nick, I can only say that you make a poor back yard judge, for which you appear appropriately unqualified for and seem to have set yourself us as. Please don’t remember me, as I won’t be visiting your website again. Sensationalism is not patriotism.
Your comments do not appear helpful to anyone except your joy in seeing your own name and opinion in print. No-one else I know has heard of you and isn’t interested in your column. We were led here by mistake.
Try a real job and stop wasting web space. In some countries you would be classed as a traitor generating propaganda.. But for what purpose? Self emulation… P*** off.. PS. Your site security certificate is not valid.
I live here in Bali, have for 20 years, since 1983. Every one of the above posts criticizing Indonesia are 100% right on the money.
NOBODY, even Corby, is so dumb as to knowingly put 4 kilos in a fricking boogie board bag! Get real, Nick. She is surely innocent, but even if she wasn’t, it is up to foriegners to point out what is wrong here with Indonesias judicial system - Indonesians are too chicken shit to do it themselves, they cower with fear. This is why they love to protest the Aussie or US Embassy(Indo government approves of this) but not their own evil politicians and judges and government.
Dear Nick, we so called “corrupt westerners” have seen enough injustice in your part of the world. The real loser from this is Bali!
I’ve followed this case over the past year with avid interest especially since one of my interests is unjust trials and wrongful convictions.
Without wanting to reiterate much of what has been said already there seems to be somewhat understandably a large deal of raw emotion in this case and heavy criticism of the Indonesian legal system.
It is known that many South East Asian countries have corrupt legal systems and Indonesia is at the forefront of that. However corrupttion only occurs when money is offered and the corruption is generally to gain an accuital rahter than to gain a conviction. In this case what would be the motivation for the judges and prosecution to collaborate and wrongfully convict Schapelle Corby?
It would seem that on the contrary with the world watching and a citizen of a western country in the dock the legal system would want to avoid any chance of a hiccup and criticism.
A very objective and usueful analysis of this case can be seen in Dr Tim Linday’s interview on ninemsn
http://ninemsn.video.msn.com/video/p.htm?mkt=en-au&&rf=
He makes the point that just like in Australia which uses the common law system defendants in Indonesia are innocent till proven guilty and the onus is upon the prosecution to provide a prima facie, that is evidence showing that the defendant committed the crime. Once this is established it then falls upon the defence to offer their own evidence that the prima facie is not valid.
Even in Australia arriving at customs with drugs in your bag is a fairly convincing prima facie for the prosecution and to counter this the defence have a very difficult job. A very good example of this is the case of Chika Honda in Melbourne
http://www.themelbournecase.com/story.html
Her defence team did not in a legal sense convincinly challenge the prima facie i.e. she had 4kg of marijuana in her bag. They concentrated on 2 main arguments.
1) the bag containing the cannabis was not finger printed. Whether you are arrested for possession on the street or at an airport. Fingerprints on the bag would nto be necessary to gain a conviction. Historically fingerprinting is only a crux for a case in the world of Holywood movies. In criminal cases fingerprinting is generally used to secure the conviction i.e. the icing on the cake for the prosecution. In this case since the drugs were in her bag already this is more convincing than any fingerprints.
2) It was planted by baggage handlers at Brisbane. Once again while there has been no evidence to claerly suggest it happened in this case.
3) The customs officer lied and said that she tried to prevent him opening the bag. This is a case of who do you believe the customs officer or Schapelle. Well, in Australia too a customs officer wuold generally be believed rather than a defendant unless one could offer strong evidence to the contrary.
The defence were lucky to have John Ford come before the court with a testimony based on ‘what he heard’ something that would never have been admitted in an Australian court.
I would not say that Schapelle is guilty or not guilty. I would say that most people have been swayed by her heartfelt pleas and emotional outpouring but as the trial judge said, this has no bearing on the legal process. It is highly likely that whetehr someopen is guilty or innocent they are going to plead their innocence and cry if facing a lengthy jail sentence.
I would say that she has had a fair trial in that the defence were given every opportunity to present evidence to counter the prima facie which they consistently failed to do. Many of the arguments they made such as the weight of the bag at check-in not being available to the court, were their responsibility to bring to the court to counter the prima facie. Ultimately if Schapelle is to appeal I would advise her to get a much better defence team who can dig up solid evidence otherwise her conviction and sentence is likely to remain as it is.
I find it hard to understand why the Australian government hasnt stepped in.
Surely if a politician was faced with this, they would be whisked away to Australia via ASIO. But just a regular Australian Citizen - “bugger her” huh?
Come on Australia, what the hell is the government good for, if its not protecting its citizens?
I find it hard to understand why the Australian government hasnt stepped in.
Surely if a politician was faced with this, they would be whisked away to Australia via ASIO. But just a regular Australian Citizen - “bugger her” huh?
Come on Australia, what the hell is the government good for, if its not protecting its citizens?
I find it hard to understand why the Australian government hasnt stepped in.
Surely if a politician was faced with this, they would be whisked away to Australia via ASIO. But just a regular Australian Citizen - “bugger her” huh?
Come on Australia, what the hell is the government good for, if its not protecting its citizens?
Sorry guys, something went haywire with my internet
I also wanted to express that you are wrong in your naive thought that MJ is only grown in Sydney then shipped up north- You’ve got to be kidding me. Nearly the entire eastern coastline of Australia is capable of producing MJ product, at the right times of year. Places in South Australia and the NOrthern Territory permit people to grow personal Cannabis plants.
Please research your information before you blurt it out all over the internet.
Your government has insulted all Australians.. a grave mistake in regards to Schapelle Corby. All people are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way round. You have convicted her unjustly. This will have a huge impact on tourism and I for one will never step foot on Indonesian soil as much as I like travelling. Aussie travellers will boycott tourism in Bali until Schapelle gets true justice and not this corrupt and extremely floored fiasco you call a legal system. .
People from all over the world are also cancelling their plans to travel to a country where a holiday ends up being a prison sentence!
Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. There are already a million posts refuting opinions such as those from Nick, and 2 million that threaten the judge, cast suspicion on the Indonesian legal system, ask for a boycott on Bali, and insulting the “smelly bastards”
We don’t need another 15 million posts, frankly. More of the same, is not better. It is just more.
Go do something more productive. A properly written FAQ for example. Donate some $ to the family.
(all numbers are a lazy attempt to imply that there are plenty of posts. I haven’t actually done a count.)
Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. There are already a million posts correcting posts such as Nick’s, and 2 million that threaten the judge, cast suspicion on the Indonesian legal system, and that ask for a boycott on Bali.
We don’t need another 15 million posts, frankly.
Go do something more productive. A properly written FAQ for example.
what is the matter with the aussie government to allow this to happen.these pricks have no balls, and if they did they need a good swift kick in the agates.Where the fuck is PAULINE HANSON when you need her.Where worried about corrupt slopes over there ,our gutless mob are not exactly saints.what we need is a couple of fair dinkum aussies to go over there and kick there fucking arse.To me these mongrels are known as slopes .Pity they didnt all drown in the tsaumi
Balinese custom officer Religion Agama Hindu Very religious Believes in Karma .Caste Satria High level in caste system . If knowingly lies will have dire consequences in next life!! Australian Tourist Religion Non practicing Christian Not very religious Said in interview if sentenced to life she never experience marraige and children ( She was married to Japanese Man for 4 years ) Lets face it lies are part of every day life in western countries but in Balinese lifestyle religion is part of their lives from the day they are born to the day that they die and to do anything that can upset their balance is to bring mayhem and sadness . As a footnote when the same Judge sentenced Muklas to death for his part in the Bali bombings everyone thought he was great and the trial was fair Perhaps if Corby Defence had been more experienced things might have been different guilty or not ( ie if same lawyers Bashir had for his case in Jakarta ( 2.5 years for knowing of bali bomb )had been approached ) a lesser sentence may have been given
Balinese custom officer Religion Agama Hindu Very religious Believes in Karma .Caste Satria High level in caste system . If knowingly lies will have dire consequences in next life!! Australian Tourist Religion Non practicing Christian Not very religious Said in interview if sentenced to life she never experience marraige and children ( She was married to Japanese Man for 4 years ) Lets face it lies are part of every day life in western countries but in Balinese lifestyle religion is part of their lives from the day they are born to the day that they die and to do anything that can upset their balance is to bring mayhem and sadness . As a footnote when the same Judge sentenced Muklas to death for his part in the Bali bombings everyone thought he was great and the trial was fair Perhaps if Corby Defence had been more experienced things might have been different guilty or not ( ie if same lawyers Bashir had for his case in Jakarta ( 2.5 years for knowing of bali bomb )had been approached ) a lesser sentence may have been given
Bali will be a ghost town.
I really dont know what the Aussie are crying about. Drugs are illegal over the whole world even in a liberal country like the Netherlands. But i quess in Aussie everything is allowed. (drinking beer on the street, having public sex, driving a motorbike without a licence or helmet.)
AN INDONESIAN drug-smuggler convicted of importing almost a kilogram of amphetamines into Australia in 2003 is on day release and has a job earning about $400 a week.
Sumatran-born Louis Marciano is near the end of a sentence for importing methylamphetamine, or speed, and is likely to be deported in August.
A NSW District Court judge jailed him for 5½ years in 2003, but he is likely to be released after serving just the 3½-year non-parole period.
If he had been caught in Bali, he would have faced the firing squad or life in jail.
His sentence and conditions contrast sharply with the 20-year sentence handed down to Schapelle Corby on Friday.
This week Marciano, 36, was spending his days outside the jail on work release.
A NSW Corrective Services department spokesman said he had to be paid the minimum wage of about $400 a week.
He said Marciano did not have access to this money, except to pay for his lunch and fares.
The rest was sent to his wife and two young children in Indonesia, or kept until he finished his sentence.
WHERE is the justice????????
A sad day for everyone; we can only hope that Schapelle is able to come home after a minimal sentence & that we can all contribute in some form to make her life easier whilst she is confined to Krobokan. Whilst this contribution may be in the form of some $’s and encouragement as part of an appeal it would be nice if we didn’t encourage any actions that would only serve to damage our relationship with the other 200 million Indonesians who aren’t part of the legal system. (In particular the People in Aceh who are rebuilding their lives & Balinese who depend on our custom) With Bali being so close to Australian shores & such a fun place to party it must be so difficult for many of us to accept that the local laws and legal system is a world apart from ours. (Dari orang belanda) Amongst my 22 x 1-2 month trips over the past 24 years I have shared cones with Sumateran Bataks & in 1983 accidently brought a small block of THC in/out of Bali within my first aid kit. No doubt if it had been detected I would have been out at Krobokan looking at the sawah through bars myself ?
Steve.M.
She has to be guilty because:
1) She claims to have neither noticed the additional weight or that the bag was a lot bulkier than before.
2) The vacuum-sealed bag was formed to take the same shape as the boogie board bag. This requires a lot of prep-work.
3) The bag was not locked with a padlock. If it was it would be impossible to claim that someone else planted it into the bag.
I think #2 is the strongest indication she is guilty.
While I do feel sorry for her I feel she has only herself to blame. What she should have done is simply google’d “drug smuggling indonesia” to see what the punishment is.
Yes, the Indonesian system is very hypocritical. Yes, it is very corrupt. Yes, you can buy weed in prison from the guards. But they still do have laws that can be enforced when they want to.
I feel a better punishment would be only 5 years in prison, but with an online webcam so that curious would-be drug mules could log on the Internet and watch in real time how Ms. Corby is now spending her life.
The solution is simple. Don’t give them an excuse to do what the government has done to Ms Corby. Better yet, stay out of Muslim nations - they will jump at the chance to screw over some white western non-muslim - Jihad can take many forms.
She has to be guilty because:
1) She claims to have neither noticed the additional weight or that the bag was a lot bulkier than before.
2) The vacuum-sealed bag was formed to take the same shape as the boogie board bag. This requires a lot of prep-work.
3) The bag was not locked with a padlock. If it was it would be impossible to claim that someone else planted it into the bag.
I think #2 is the strongest indication she is guilty.
While I do feel sorry for her I feel she has only herself to blame. What she should have done is simply google’d “drug smuggling indonesia” to see what the punishment is.
Yes, the Indonesian system is very hypocritical. Yes, it is very corrupt. Yes, you can buy weed in prison from the guards. But they still do have laws that can be enforced when they want to.
I feel a better punishment would be only 5 years in prison, but with an online webcam so that curious would-be drug mules could log on the Internet and watch in real time how Ms. Corby is now spending her life.
The solution is simple. Don’t give them an excuse to do what the government has done to Ms Corby. Better yet, stay out of Muslim nations
# Marijuana is grown in the Sydney area and shipped north, to Queensland. Not the other way round. Schapelle claims baggage handlers were shipping it from Brisbane to Sydney.
ummmmmmmmmm…. Ever heard of Nimbin? It’s a fair whack closer to Brisbane/GC than Sydney. FNQ is also reknowned for guerrilla dope farming.
# The drugs were in her boogie-board bag. A boogie board weighs about 2lbs. How did she not notice the extra weight and size (have you seen a pound of pot? Its big! ) of the 4.1kgs in her bag?
This would make sense IF only one person handled the bag at all points of the journey. Michael put the repaired board in the bag and put it in the car at Tugan. Schapelle carried it from the carpark to check-in at Bris. James picked it up off the floor near the bag carousel in Denpasar & carried it to the customs desk. No one person had a perception of the bag’s weight from beginning to end to even be able to discern a difference. Add to that a bunch of tired ppl just off the plane from around 7 hrs flying cattle-class, and I think even if on person had handled it, the difference might have been overlooked.
# Accounts of customs staff at the airport in Bali say Schapelle refused to open her bag when requested.
The customs agent had only a very basic command of English. An interpreter was required for Ch Nine/60 mins inteview of him in November 2005. There is a more than reasonable doubt that he did not understand the nuance difference between ‘that’s my luggage’ and ‘that’s my weed.’
Sorry, Nick. It could in fact be true that Schapelle is an innocent.
At very worst, she certainly cannot be proven beyond any reasonable doubt to have willfully and knowingly imported cannabis to Bali.
cheers
-weez
siteadmin/moderator
dontshootschapelle.com
Firstly, pat you’re as much of a fucking nut case as nick the dick, no doubt you live in indonesia. Perhaps it is you that took a ride on a motorbike unlicensed and obtained brain damage in the process hmm? thought so. Let me just say one thing, when the chief prosecutor read out the verdict for corby case, he said that corby had not proven her innocence, which in fact is incorrect, because it is not her job to prove her innocence, it is the prosecutions job to prove her guilt without any reasonable doubt, and they failed to do that. Face facts, indonesia is a haven corruption in every form, and this judge with his 500+ guilty verdicts is at the top of the pile of shit that is indonesia.
Firstly, pat you’re as much of a fucking nut case as nick the dick, no doubt you live in indonesia. Perhaps it is you that took a ride on a motorbike unlicensed and obtained brain damage in the process hmm? thought so. Let me just say one thing, the chief prosecutor said that corby had not proven her innocence, which in fact is incorrect, because it is not her job to prove her innocence, it is the prosecutions job to prove her guilt without any reasonable doubt, and they failed to do that. Face facts, indonesia is a haven corruption in every form, and this judge with his 500+ guilty verdicts is at the top of the pile of shit that is indonesia.
2) The vacuum-sealed bag was formed to take the same shape as the boogie board bag. This requires a lot of prep-work.
The plastic bags containing the buds were NOT “vacuum sealed.” They were stapled shut.
-weez
siteadmin/moderator
dontshootschapelle.com
#The plastic bags containing the buds were NOT “vacuum sealed.” They were stapled shut.
If it was stapled shut rather than compressed and vacuum sealed then it should have been even more obvious when 8 pounds of uncompressed weed was in a bag. While I can almost forgive her for not noticing the weight difference but the dramatic increased bulkyness of the bag could not have gone unnoticed. If it was 1 pound, maybe, but not 8 pounds.
BTW, I have found on other news article claiming it was stapled. They all claim it was vacuum sealed.
Thanks for voicing your views Nick. The Corby case seems to have brought out the worst in Australians. ACA and 60 Minutes have got everyone so riled up they’re almost ready to start World War III. The racism it has provoked is a real worry, and some of the comments above typify that.
The saddest thing is that the Australian goodwill after the tsunami hasn’t lasted, and some people are even withdrawing their pledges to charity. It seems like Australia is throwing a big tantie now that the decision hasn’t gone their way. It’s terrible to take that out on the poor homeless people of Aceh.
If exactly the same trial had been run in Australia (with an equally inept defence effort), the verdict would have been the same. If you’re caught with 4kg of drugs at any airport in the world, it’s considered a prima-facie case - you are guilty ‘at first sight’, and you have an uphill battle to counter that.
The sentence seems pretty severe in Australian terms, but Indonesia is a very different country. Prices are low and sentences high for exactly the same reason: life is cheap in an underdeveloped country. If you want an inexpensive holiday, you have to accept the whole package. If sentences weren’t so harsh in Asian countries then hundreds of their citizens would be lining up to bring drugs into Australia. Our heroin problem would be ten times as bad.
In answer to some of Nick’s points about the verdict:
For me the Indonesian brother-in-law did push up the plausibility scale - whether or not the couple live in Bali, it opens the possibility of local connections.
According to the American DEA, (http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/intel/04009/) QLD and NSW are the top two states where cannabis is grown in Australia. Of course, that still leaves the question: If you wanted to get 4kg of cannabis from Brisbane to Sydney, would you hatch some elaborate plan involving baggage handlers smuggling it between domestic airports via passenger luggage, or would you just jump in a car…?
According to the Sydney Morning Herald Corby even lied under oath:
‘Asked by Judge Sirait what contact she had had with marijuana, Corby said she had come across it only in drug education classes at school. She gave a quite different response to 60 Minutes last year. “Oh, I experimented.” ‘
While I can understand that someone might panic in such a situation, it puts a different spin on her thruthfulness. Forget all that stuff her mother said after the verdict about ’she swore on the Bible’ - it doesn’t mean anything.
But none of this seems to matter to the Australian shock-jocks and chequebook journalism. Schapelle is just a sweet innocent young lady, and apparently all Indonesians are corrupt monkeys.
Guilty or innocent, I really wish the whole Schapelle episode hadn’t happened in the first place. The law is a blunt instrument in any country, and there will always be some doubt. But Indonesia can hardly turn a blind eye to every Australian who arrives in the country with 4 kilos of Mary Jane in their luggage, just because we helped after the tsunami. If we want another country to have respect for our legal system, then we need to have respect for theirs. The sooner Australia gets over it, the better.
Ozzorro
Melbourne
Nick
I appreciate your point of view, it is a view that understands the Indonesian legal system and does not present an emotive bleat because this pretty young thing has been found guilty. I have an open mind about her guilt or innocence, but the overriding factor here is the integrity of the Indonesian legal system and they have stepped up to the challenge.
Someone stashed the dope, it was found in her luggage and until someone else puts their hand up it is Schapelle’s responsibility.
The Corby’s are certainly not presenting well and ‘dodgey’ parasites such as Ron Bakir are also enjoying the spoils - he has even registered Schapelle’s name as a business.
I am an Australian who loves Bali and respects the Indonesians. My guess is that this circus will be over and a diplomatic fix will be put into place - only hope the same ‘fix’ is offered to other Australian’s jailed in other Asian prisons. Don’t think so, just these red necked Queenslanders!
NICK -
There are a lot of sons & daughters of Indonesian politians studying at univerisities across Australia. I know for a fact that lots of them are in the party scene here. I wonder what would happen if some Australian Customs Official catches one of them trying to import drugs into our country. I bet that would speed up justice!
I can not wait for that to happen. As far as I am concerned (and all my friends) I condemn Bali to no visits for 20 years.
LET HOPE SOME INDONESIAN STUDENT
ALL I CAN SAY UNFORTUNATELY IS “BYE BYE BALI”
Hmm, I though he went to South Africa.
Will they still broadcast Schapelle’s Show while he is in prison?
NICK -
There are a lot of sons & daughters of Indonesian politians studying at univerisities across Australia. I know for a fact that lots of them are in the party scene here. I wonder what would happen if some Australian Customs Official catches one of them trying to import drugs into our country. I bet that would speed up justice!
I can not wait for that to happen. As far as I am concerned (and all my friends)
ALL I CAN SAY UNFORTUNATELY IS “BYE BYE BALI”
As a Westerner here in Canada. I am outraged by this entire case. I will be honest, I knew nothing about this case until Thursday of last week. I have read all the information on everything regarding Ms. Corby, I do feel she is innocent. She was handed 20 years for POT. This is ridiculous!
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=act%20of%20terrorism
“act of terrorism
n : the calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimindation or coercion or instilling fear”
Someone please tell if I am wrong, but the Balinese and Indonesians, according to the Standard English dictionary are classified as terrorists. So why are we negotiating with these people?
Not saying we should start a war, but these 3rd world poverty nations, really need to stop terrorizing the free world innocent civilians who try to help these countries by touring there country.
I am sure most of this is political, and the prosecution clearly states that.. They said they want to give her a life sentence to teach other people a lesson and not smuggle drugs into Bali.
As my final words, this is an act of terrorism, what is the difference between this case, and any other terrorist act?
Clearly there will be a life lost, if she does not get an appeal, or a pardon, she is likely to commit suicide or get killed.
So who the real criminal in the end, is it Indonesia for being the terrorists, or is it the Free world countries, for not doing anything about this?
As a Westerner here in Canada. I am outraged by this entire case. I will be honest, I knew nothing about this case until Thursday of last week. I have read all the information on everything regarding Ms. Corby, I do feel she is innocent. She was handed 20 years for POT. This is ridiculous!
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=act%20of%20terrorism
“act of terrorism
n : the calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimindation or coercion or instilling fear”
Someone please tell if I am wrong, but the Balinese and Indonesians, according to the Standard English dictionary are classified as terrorists. So why are we negotiating with these people?
Not saying we should start a war, but these 3rd world poverty nations, really need to stop terrorizing the free world innocent civilians who try to help these countries by touring there country.
I am sure most of this is political, and the prosecution clearly states that.. They said they want to give her a life sentence to teach other people a lesson and not smuggle drugs into Bali.
As my final words, this is an act of terrorism, what is the difference between this case, and any other terrorist act?
Clearly there will be a life lost, if she does not get an appeal, or a pardon, she is likely to commit suicide or get killed.
So who the real criminal in the end, is it Indonesia for being the terrorists, or is it the Free world countries, for not doing anything about this?
This whole Corby thing is definetly designed and executed to make people fight each other, anyone who logically observe the whole thing will definetly know that.
The same goes for the Bali bomb, the Australian Embassy bomb, Timor Leste’s ‘liberation’, Iraq’s ‘liberation’, Indonesia’s ‘liberation’, the Guantanomo Bay incident, and so on.
This sort of thing is capable of making some people fight each other due that some people seems to be ignorant on some things and don’t realize that the people who are currently in controls of the Indonesian government are the same ones who are currently in controls of the Australian government and other ‘official’ governments in the world.
These same people also controls mass media around the world, big tourist companies, big airline companies, human rights organizations, ‘terror’ organisation, anti-’terror’ organisation, drug makers, anti-drugs organizations, and so on.
If you follow ‘their’ words, sure you wouldn’t find any connection between all of ‘their’ ‘proxies’. However if you use your own instinct (and not the instinct ‘they’ installed on you), you will know that all of them obeyed the same master and all of them are just mere ‘proxies’.
Personally, I don’t care on whether Corby is innocent or guilty. That’s none of my business or problem.
It’s her business, it’s her problem, it’s also the business and problem the people associated with the whole thing (the baggage handlers, the airports, the airline companies, the courts, and so on).
Ask yourself, if this isn’t your business or problem, why should you be all concern about it?
The problem with the world today might not be people not caring about other people, but instead more about people messing around with things that aren’t their business in the first place.
Now… What about this so called drug problems?
Easy, decriminalize drug making, dealing, and trafficking. That would have eliminate this whole thing. Interestingly, it’s only after the ‘reformation’ that Indonesia’s drug laws become stricter.
Perharps Corby should have made a plea to the former President Suharto to bail her out? Assuming that she don’t want to be proven guilty or serve time, maybe she was threatened to ‘accept’ the verdict guily to save her family back home from suffering (maybe someone back home have a case against her family?), or maybe coming back home and living back home would be a more scarrier experiences (Indonesia is where many people escaped to when they’re in trouble, not the other way around), or maybe she think can make more money by playing the innocent victim, and so on.
It would have been much better to make a plea at Suharto than to make a plea at Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono who is only a mere weak stooge like George Walker Bush, John Howard, Tony Blair, and so on.
As for what happened if there’s a boycott on Indonesia and/or Bali.
Australia got lots more to lose than Indonesia should things gone for the worse. Sure both countries are capable of living on their own, especially Indonesia with lots of natural resources and people (Indonesia don’t need tourism or even foreign debts… er, I mean ‘aids’, those things are usually force feed by foreign parties), but Australia would have their routes severly disconnected.
I don’t know on why some Australians gone nutty of the whole boycott thing, either for this one or another or another or another.
Are some of them trying to make people fight each other? Or are some of them aren’t actually Australians and/or have any loyalty toward Australia and therefore are trying to make Australia lose a lot? Or some of them lack common sense? Or are some of them are just plain on too much drugs and/or alcohols?
I have read with interest these blogs and also had a healthy argument on the weekend whether Schapelle is innocent or not.
Stand out dot points:
. why would you take only 4 kgs to Bali, if you were going to smuggle this shit, man, wouldn’t you want to make it worthwhile? What would 4ks be on the street $$$$$ what? SWEET FANNY ADAMS!!!!
. wouldnt you make it difficult for the dope to be detected?
.seems suss that the CCTV wasn’t working at that time
.there has been such controversy as to whether the dope was vacuum packed or just stapled. If it was stapled then the obvious bulge would be noticeable or the “bogeyman” had a lot of time flatening it into Schapelle’s body board bag.
. is she covering up for her brother, has he anything to do with this, isnt he a regular pothead in trouble with the law?
One thing is certain must we hurt innocent balinese people who rely on us to feed them via our visits? Would this make any difference if we boycotted Bali and made the economy suffer? Who are we hurting , the poor people, not the dictatorial beauracrats with fascism on their minds and their draconian laws.
We should find a way to hurt these bastards that are the very scum of life that protect the rich and the guilty and hurt the innocent.
I have read with interest these blogs and also had a healthy argument on the weekend whether Schapelle is innocent or not.
Stand out dot points:
. why would you take only 4 kgs to Bali, if you were going to smuggle this shit, man, wouldn’t you want to make it worthwhile? What would 4ks be on the street $$$$$ what? SWEET FANNY ADAMS!!!!
. wouldnt you make it difficult for the dope to be detected?
.seems suss that the CCTV wasn’t working at that time
.there has been such controversy as to whether the dope was vacuum packed or just stapled. If it was stapled then the obvious bulge would be noticeable or the “bogeyman” had a lot of time flatening it into Schapelle’s body board bag.
. is she covering up for her brother, has he anything to do with this, isnt he a regular pothead in trouble with the law?
One thing is certain must we hurt innocent balinese people who rely on us to feed them via our visits? Would this make any difference if we boycotted Bali and made the economy suffer? Who are we hurting , the poor people, not the dictatorial bureaucrats with fascism on their minds and their draconian laws.
We should find a way to hurt these bastards that are the very scum of life that protect the rich and the guilty and hurt the innocent.
Fuck Bali, Fuck Indonesia, Fuck their Corrupt justice system and the Judges that go with it (may they all swallow their tongues). What is this world coming to ? And to the dump fuck customs officer, how much did you get paid ? I wish nothing but pain for you you heartless fuck
Fuck Bali, Fuck Indonesia, Fuck their Corrupt justice system and the Judges that go with it (may they all swallow their tongues). What is this world coming to ? And to the dump fuck customs officer, how much did you get paid ? I wish nothing but pain for you. you heartless fuck
Fuck Bali, Fuck Indonesia, Fuck their Corrupt justice system and the Judges that go with it (may they all swallow their tongues). What is this world coming to ? And to the dump fuck customs officer, how much did you get paid ? I wish nothing but pain for you. you heartless fuck
Lets face it folks Schappelle is guilt as sin. She needed a bit of dough for her hols and her sis called Mercedes offered her a good deal is she brought some Ozz weed over. She knew a lot of people interested in buying the weed from her partying in Bali. She also like her puff and because of Supply and Demand there was a market. Yes the sentence was ridiculous and too high but geez Corby never stood a chance in court. Its up to her to prove her innocence. Imean for Gods sake she wouldnt open her bag when asked by custom officers. What she should have done was PLAY THE GAME……this means she should have slipped the Custom Officer 500$ Cash in her passport and she would have been allowed to get through. Thats what i done…oops sorry would have done. Anyway all you lot shouting she is innocent and Nick is a toss pot will you all be sending in Schappelle money every month so she can bribe the guards and get puff smuggled in and nice eats. Hee hee
Regs Spark
Regs Spark
Why is everyone so convinced she is bloody innocent, and why take your shit out on the innocent people of bali, nobody will stop me from going back to bali again. I agree with Rory l think her brother has a lot to answer for. Robyn
Has anyone explored the idea that the drugs originated in Bali and were mistakenly or hurriedly placed in an in-coming bag rather than out-going luggage? One would need to observe the baggage traffic pattern. Drugs could be moved in and out of an airport using food carts or waste receptacles. How often do bags go temporarily missing in Bali or from Bali?
It seems that most smugglers passing thru security go to great lengths to disguise the stash by putting it in statues or in machinery. Was this stash a generic suppository for quick placement or was it tediously custom packaged to fit this particular board and bag?
I agree that intentionally lugging a bale of stinking, low value, bulky cannabis thru two security/checkpoints with x-ray machines, general heighten security, sniffing dogs and the death penalty for a slip up, does not make a lot of sense. Especially with the detection probability being close to 100% and the reality that sending pot to Bali is similar to taking coals to Newcastle; taking a product from a high value market and sending it to a low value market. Also, youngish women seem to be suspect from a terrorism angle and more closely scrutinized.
I believe the pot was local to Bali, unless complicated packaging rules out that possibility from a time perspective. Are there any pictures of the packaging?
To believe Corby’s defense story is to simultaneously admit that multi-million dollar airport security is not effective. A terrorist could plant a bomb using the same technique. I�m not so sure either government or airports/airlines or law enforcement are interested in �proving� her story is true. It�s like asking them to poke themselves in the eye.
Comment on weight and bulk. Was she wearing white when she traveled? She would not be lugging a lot of stuff around because her clothes would get dirty. Women are like that. Weight is relative, not much difference between heavy and heavier. I travel a lot and I can’t tell the difference. As far a bulk, depends how bulky the board bag was originally. Are these bags skin tight?
As far as the Indonesians are concerned, they are probably no more or less corrupt than anywhere else. Politics is politics. Abusing individuals to send �messages� to the general populace is common in all judicial systems. Aussies, can you say “transportation”, it’s your history. In America, with a prior non-violent record you can get life in prison for stealing some DVDs.
In America, a number of government, security cleared, Transportation Security Administration personnel have been arrested for stealing cash, jewelry, electronics from airport baggage as they rooted through it. It became newsworthy when several Hollywood movie stars were hit. A whole TSA gang was arrested in Florida for stealing.
In America you are not allowed to lock your bag, it will be cut off, and almost always you find a calling card from TSA on the bottom of the inside of your bag indicating it was searched. Leave locks and all valuables at home. Not sure why it was incriminating that Corby didn�t lock her bag.
Shit, she is guilty! She tried to bring some herb into Bali for her friends and she got busted! Just look at her…you can tell by her eyes that she did wrong. Hell, no-one would give a damn if she was some jacky; it’s just that she’s a stone hottie that anyone give a damn. Hell, Russell Crowe probably wants to bed her. Forget about it, she did the crime now she can do the time.
Wow Bali without Australians, fantastic. I think I’ll book my next trip now.
When you travel to foreign counties respect their customs and laws. Don’t compare their sentencing length 20 years compared to say 5 in Australia and moan. If you want to take that attitude then why didn’t you complain last time you bought a meal or a drink in Bali and offer to pay the same price as you would in Australia. You can’t have it both ways.
There can be very little doubt that Corby is guilty.
She is selfish, stupid and greedy. Personally, I feel 5-7 years would have been long enough, but she smuggled drugs to Indonesia, so what does she expect?
Proof she is guilty can be seen here:
http://indcoup.blogspot.com/
Yes, because buying a meal and being sentenced to 20 years of your life are so comparable, why don’t you go live in indonesia with all the other psychopaths.
to right Baal, off you go BaliRegular .. I hope your next… Be sure to lock your bags now
Australians, you are no better than Indonesians!!! What you did to my fellow 4 Japaneses give an example! And as for Corby’s case, I do believe SHE’S GUILTY, you prick!!! I am so happy that she must spend 20 years there! hahaha that’s our revenge for what you’ve done to our people. Live with that Australians! I remember you scared to death when our troops approached Papua and cried for help to MacArthur! I wish our troops were there so your grandies could feel how nice it was under colonization just like what the aborigins feel to you, morons!
Check this out guys, you’ll find an interesting story behind Corby’s case:
http://mikepannone.blogspot.com/2005/05/why-australians-are-stupid.html
This is an interesting artical printed in the Jakarta post yesterday. It sheds a bit of light on how things work over here and how the media hype may not have helped her.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/yesterdaydetail.asp?fileid=20050530.A03
If hope indeed that some knuckleheads Aussies boycott Bali. Maybe Bali would be a better place atleast.
I believe Schappelle is guilty, but i also beleive that the sentence is harsh. I’m not sure why the indonesians classify marijuana the same as cocaine and heroin. I think a 5 yr sentence is more appropriate, but it is well known that any drug trafficking imposes the death penalty.
Australians have been easily led by the media (most of which is sympathetic to schappele), and most of you forget that Amrose and one or two of his mates have been given the death penalty, so stop complaining about injustices in sentencing. People in Australia can get away with all sorts of shit on technicalities, and dont pretend its not uncommon.
The group she was travelling with probably had their story fugured out from the start and are sticking with it.
In Australia, if a judge has to decide between the word of a customs officer and civilian, whose word does he take? If this was about corruption, do you not think she could hve bought her way out of the shit she is in. $14,000 isnt that big a prospect in light of the alternatives.
I dont want to sling shit at anybody, but to those of you people being racist……get off this planet because there is no room for any of you, in any country!
YEP, a better place…. A place that gives Abu Bakar Bashir 2.5 years for killing over 200 people in the Bali bombings (With hard evidence present) and Schapelle 20 years (with no hard evidence)… What happens if you speed over there while driving ? 30 years ?
Mercedes Corby does not live in Bali. Her husband is Balinese and they were visiting. She is now staying in Bali to assist Schapelle. You should really get your facts right before you start mouthing off about guilt!
CrookedPlace:
No make no mistake, there’s no hard evidence on Abu Bakar Bashir’s involvement in Bali bombings. Bali bombers: Amrozi, Imam Samudera, etc. have been given death penalties. I believe you’re no fool, you use internet you browse for sources giving information regarding this issue, not just 1 side story fabricated by your silly media.
Jeff, my big applause for inserting the Jakarta Post article. It gives a very good insight, and, besides, clears up horrors they say about Indonesia.
Honestly, I never thought Indonesia was so barbaric the way Australians put it.
It’s just plain Australians’ arrogance.
Congratulations, Jeff!
I’ve had an interesting read of this blog..funny thing is I’m not suprised in the least of how many simple minded people there are in the world!
Anyhow the question is: Is Schapelle Corby Innocent or Guilty?
Unfortunately She and possibly her family are the only one’s who can honestly answer that question.
Here are my thoughts on the Matter!
There are only 2 options: 1. She took in the drugs, or 2. they were planted.
Let’s have an unbiased look:
Option.1
She knew about the MJ and tried to get it into Bali! Ok, I’ve pondered on it..and Honestly makes no sense to me but it is always possible!
Firstly, drugs are easily obtainable in Bali, having been to Bali on various occasions. Marijuana being the easiest, pretty much offered on every street corner, no joke! and Very Cheap something like 2 to 3 dollars per gram. Quality might be an issue, but it’s cheap and does the job.
Now considering that the market price in australia is around 20 dollars a gram. So..(Excuse the language)Why the Fuck would anyone smuggle in something that’s worth 1/10th the value on reselling???? Make’s no plausable sense, Even if you had contacts, selling to tourists..How much could you make? 20 bucks per gram? Better of selling in australia in my book and avoid the risk! Another thought, If quality of marijuana is an issue, and Bali being corrupt as it is? Why not produce there? Outdoor would be no problem, Tropical weather and police?? What Police!
Option.2
Drug’s being planted is far fetched but possible!
Corruption is not exclusive to Indonesia. It happens everywhere including Australia. If you have a job and get payed for doing it, you have already been bought. Everyone’s looking for a better job with more pay..true? So some baggage handlers are corrupt? If anyone reading this, didn’t know that..Where have you been living..in the bush? lol
Anyhow to Schapelles bag! If it was planted, Some fuckhead really stuffed up the shipment and sent it in the wrong bag and wrong flight. So If this is the case, Poor Schapelle, I feel very sorry for her!
As for banning Bali as a tourist destination…Comon, I knew Aussie have been rascist in the past.(Can you say “White Australia Policy”) But let’s be Honest, Australia has grown up and in general Australian’s arn’t red necks..So let’s stop acting like we were. Banning Bali is Wrong! Most people in Bali are hard workers and very poorly paid. Why make their lives harder then it is, especially after the hard times they had with the Bali Bombings. Have some compassion for these poor people and don’t blame them. What we should do is pressure the Australian Govenment into investigating what really happened and finding the real culprits (If that is the case)and getting her out! Ohhh I forgot, Since when does the Australian Government give a fuck about it’s citizens.
On the whole: Indonesia does have draconian laws (It’s a fact) and no one who is innocent should be in jail for any amount of time none the less 20 years!
I’ve had an interesting read of this blog..funny thing is I’m not suprised in the least of how many simple minded people there are in the world!
Anyhow the question is: Is Schapelle Corby Innocent or Guilty?
Unfortunately She and possibly her family are the only one’s who can honestly answer that question.
Here are my thoughts on the Matter!
There are only 2 options: 1. She took in the drugs, or 2. they were planted.
Let’s have an unbiased look:
Option.1
She knew about the MJ and tried to get it into Bali! Ok, I’ve pondered on it..and Honestly makes no sense to me but it is always possible!
Firstly, drugs are easily obtainable in Bali, having been to Bali on various occasions. Marijuana being the easiest, pretty much offered on every street corner, no joke! and Very Cheap something like 2 to 3 dollars per gram. Quality might be an issue, but it’s cheap and does the job.
Now considering that the market price in australia is around 20 dollars a gram. So..(Excuse the language)Why the Fuck would anyone smuggle in something that’s worth 1/10th the value on reselling???? Make’s no plausable sense, Even if you had contacts, selling to tourists..How much could you make? 20 bucks per gram? Better off selling in Australia in my book and avoid the risk! Another thought, If quality of marijuana is an issue, and Bali being corrupt as it is? Why not produce there? Outdoor would be no problem, Tropical weather and police?? What Police!
Option.2
Drug’s being planted is far fetched but possible!
Corruption is not exclusive to Indonesia. It happens everywhere including Australia. If you have a job and get payed for doing it, you have already been bought. Everyone’s looking for a better job with more pay..true? So some baggage handlers are corrupt? If anyone reading this, didn’t know that..Where have you been living..in the bush? lol
Anyhow to Schapelles bag! If it was planted, Some fuckhead really stuffed up the shipment and sent it in the wrong bag and wrong flight. So If this is the case, Poor Schapelle, I feel very sorry for her!
As for Banning Bali as a tourist destination…Comon, I knew Aussie’s have been rascist in the past.(Can you say “White Australia Policy”) But let’s be Honest, Australia has grown up and in general Australian’s arn’t Red Necks..So let’s stop acting like we were. Banning Bali is Wrong! Most people in Bali are hard workers and very poorly paid. Why make their lives harder then it is, especially after the hard times they had with the Bali Bombings. Have some compassion for these poor people and don’t blame them. What we should do is pressure theAustralian Govenment into investigating what really happened and finding the real culprits (If that is the case)and getting her out!
Indonesia does have draconian laws (It’s a fact) and no one who is innocent should be in jail for any amount of time.
Thanks Jeff for that article from the Jakarta Post.
>This becomes clearer if we look at the case of
>Clara Elena Umana, the Mexican who was sentenced
>by the same court in 2001 to seven years. She got
>just a third of the sentence that Corby received,
>for smuggling more than three times the marijuana.
>With sentence reductions through good behavior,
>the Mexican woman will likely only end up serving
>a little more than half the sentence.
Just so you know, that the Mexican woman arrived in Bali with a male friend. The male friend Victor Manuela Navaro Garcia is in the Kerobokan Jail, for life.
Oh, and I believe the at least some of the cocaine was in a boogie board bag.
I’m not familiar with the case any more than that.
Good observation AltOpt, I often wonder why people use the same internet technology but fail to have the same capacity to use it as a powerful tool to search for the same information.
As to Vent regarding the value of marijuana in Bali you should read this (I wonder how people can’t use internet properly and get the true fact in hand):
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2005/05/25/1116950758434.html?oneclick=true
Story about baggage handlers? I feel pity to them since it’s a big coincidence that the shape of the plastic bag used to wrap the marijuana fit in well with her boogie board bag…
But this is a mere opinion: I believe she’s not guilty. Why? Because the one who’s really guilty is either her brother or her father or both who planted it there. That’s why she’s so angry to her family, isnt it logic? and I’m so sorry for to her for that, for her fate.
Watanabe,
Is it true that the Aussies cried for help to MacArthur when you approached Papua? That’s cool!
How about this Australians? Why didn’t you cry for justice for my fellow Japaneses at that time?
http://www.theage.com.au/text/articles/2005/05/26/1116950814783.html
Zeb, you Americans should learn more about your own history. After withdrawing from the Philippines, MacArthur set his base in Australia. When our troops approached Papua, they were scared to death and urged MacArthur to organize fight as soon as possible..
Watanabe,
The problem with this world, is that sometimes two idiots like your parents are often allowed to reproduce and pollute the gene pool, and raise some narrow minded moron like yourself.
Did you personally lead the offensive that took most of the native people of South East asia, and “Freed” them from white european rule? If so, the millions of South East asians that your troops abducted, enslaved, raped or killed would probably have something to say to you, not to mention the thousands of British, American and Australians who your troops butchered and tortured, or the widows of thousands of your own troops that you sent into the meat grinder for no other reason than to find oil and steel for your war effort. (The more things change..)
I’m not sure which history books you have been reading, but MacArthur actually set up his HQ in Australia because he was ordered to evacuate the Phillipines. Furthermore, the whole pacific campaign was run to a set plan of stepping stones, leading to Japan, not by the request of Australia asking the US to fight off the Japanese. Hence why the Americans landed on Guadalcanal first, not New Guinea.
How about staying on the topic here, which is Schapelle Corby? Instead you rant and rave about something which occured over 60 years ago, and which most people acknowledge was one of the biggest waste of lives in history for both sides.
Nick, I applaude your right to say exactly what yout think on this site. I actually agree with you, I have been suspicious of her innocence from day 1.
What I think people need to remember is that Indonesia is entitled to it’s laws, be they corrupt or not, and any visitors to Indonesia need to be aware that they are covered by the laws of that country. It is not up to the Australian Govt to step in and try to change the system, I feel that the Aussie Govt will do a prisoner exchange and she will serve her sentence in Australia anyway.
Hope Ika is still keeping well - not long to go now. Good Luck.
If you lott want Corby out then drop the media coverage and get the spotlight off Indo right now.
There is not a single fucking chance that you will get this girl back to Aus with the amount of attention focused on the Indo authorities at the moment.
They will not back down or back off at the moment, they will lose too much face.
Let your country’s top level liasers and diplomats sort this mess out by dealing direct with the Indo boys in the shadows where money can change hands without any fuss or media interference.
And stop talking bullshit about boycotting the country, thats only hurting the people that need your help the most and messing yourselves up in the process - you are the guys getting bad rep at the moment for your ‘xenophobia’ not the Indos.
Come here and support the Indonesian locals who, for the large part are a bunch of decent people.
Kunjaya,
My mistake, The price I indicated was for local weed in 1998 when i was last there, So 7 years does make a difference! How much does the local weed cost there now on the street?
Age Article: “hydroponic bud” smuggled from Australia sells for $A600 an ounce (about $A21 a gram) or as much as $A20,000 a kilogram.
Still, this is the price from “Top Hydro Marijuana” in bali compared to $A8,000 a kilogram in Australia, Still regardless of the profit to be made, It’s still not worth the risk getting caught.
Adding that she has visited Bali on 5 -6 occasions, Make’s you think she might not be innocent after all!
Well I never thought she was!
Vent,
Still the profit is about AU$ 50,000. Is it worth to take a risk? It depends on many things. For you maybe not. But for someone from lower-middle class in Australia who think that she/he knows a lot about Indonesia with its less stricted customs in denpasar airport, and dumb enough to do so, why is it impossible?
BTW, your comment about Australians have grown up rightnow is questionable regarding the terror pose to Indonesian Embassy in Canberra using biological weapon. It’s pissed me off. You say it’s possible somebody planted it. Ok, I can also say it’s possible that she has lied. The truth is nobody know except herself and her family. But the facts are the drugs were in her bag and she refused to open the bag. This is enough for the judges to sentence her. Then why you people terrorize our embassy? Didn’t you told us that you hate terror?
I’m sorry if I must say I don’t have any respect left to you all Schapelle supporters for what you’ve done. I rest my case.
if she were an ugly bitch would anyone really give a shit? of course not. because she is sort of good-looking and therefore fuckable we all feel sorry for her. maybe the 20 years she spends will teach her how to become a proper carpet-munching dyke. good luck sweet lips.
To all Corby supporters,
I just looked at KOMPAS website, our biggest national newspaper, which you can visit as well in http://www.kompas.com. The news about bacterial package to our embassy has been put in the headlines. Our head of parliament has made a strong comment that urging Australian government to identify the actor behind or the relationship between 2 countries may be worse, and it surely mates wouldn’t be easy for Corby’s appeal.
I think most of us Aussies are pissed off at the fact that Schapelle didn?t get a fair trial, not we all think she is innocent. Still now we haven?t got a clue if she did it or not?. There are just two many unknowns and no cold hard facts of evidence for either convicting her or getting her off. Eg fingerprinting the bag, video evidence, etc etc. It should be up to the prosecution to prove, beyond any reasonable doubt, that she is guilty. NOT for the defense to prove her innocence.
Ohh and to the Einstein that sent the letter to the Indonesian Embassy in Canberra? You are a disgrace. I hope you don?t call yourself an Australian. What a low life, cowardly, pathetic act. I hope they hunt you down and YOU get locked up for 20yrs you dickhead.
I feel sorry for Corby, wheter she’s innocent or not. But why boycott Bali. If you boycott Bali then you should boycott America first. They put people in cages whithout a trail. Not to mention how many more people and countries they “fuck” elswhere.
To the police in Bali. I found them quite nice compared to lots of other places. In the states you make a wrong move and the cop shoots you at the spot.
Just don’t get cought with dope in indo. Otherwise you get away with almost everything.
Hello there..I feel deeply sorry for the girl. Drugs such as cocaine heroine ecstasy etc been around for a long time in Indonesia.
I am an Indonesian girl currently living in the UK. I remember in 1995 when i was in one of the party place in bali, it was so easy for people to get mariyuana etc. And those ‘real drugs dealers’ still around and never got caught obviously.
In this case, I believe the corby girl is a victim. Justice not been done obviously in indonesia. The Indonesian government should really change and revise some of their outdated law in the country obviously.
Oh yes please do not say that you hate Indonesian people ! we are not that bad and you know that!
The victims of tsunami are feeling very greatfull of your help and please dont stop supporting them.
This sort of situation does not only happen in bali hopefully this will broarden your minds
AUSTRALIA has been the villain in Japan for jailing one of its citizens in a drug-smuggling case that mirrors Schapelle Corby’s plight, according to a leading criminologist.
Gold Coast-based Professor Paul Wilson, who testified on behalf of Corby at her trial for smuggling 4.1kg of marijuana into Bali, said today that Japanese tourist Chika Honda had been a victim of a miscarriage of justice.
Honda, then 29, was jailed for more than 10 years after heroin was found in her suitcase in Melbourne in 1992.
She was one of four tourists found with heroin in false panels in their suitcases when they landed in Melbourne Airport.
They have never stopped protesting their innocence, and like Corby, say they were unwitting drug couriers, Prof Wilson said.
The four had maintained that when a van containing their luggage was stolen during a stop-over at Kuala Lumpur, a fifth man told them their suitcases had been found but were damaged so their belongings had been transferred to new luggage.
Prof Wilson said Honda, who has since been deported back to Japan after spending 10-and-a-half years in Victorian jails, was still trying to clear her name after losing “the best years of her life”.
He said many of the cultural differences blasted by Australians during Corby’s trial and in the wake of her 20-year sentence had been evident in Honda’s trial.
“There have been three major Japanese documentaries made about this case and there was real anger in Japan about how the Australian media and courts treated Chika Honda and others accused - it was just as strong as the Australians feel for Corby,” Prof Wilson said.
“It can happen in Australia and it did - there were large cultural differences and translation errors and in the media there was this general discussion about the role of the Yakuza, the Japanese mafia.”
Prof Wilson, Bond University’s head of criminology, said cultural differences went to the extent where the four were not considered genuine tourists because they had not brought cameras to Australia.
He said Honda’s failure to aggressively assert her innocence, which is deemed as culturally appropriate in Japan, was seen by the Australian court as a sign of guilt.
Prof Wilson said he had studied Honda’s case for five years and was so convinced of her innocence he was preparing a petition to the Governor-General asking for her conviction to be nullified on the basis of new evidence yet to be revealed.
“Australians should realise so-called miscarriages of justice occur here - we should be very careful before we say that we have this perfect system that doesn’t discriminate between other cultures because the Chika Honda case clearly shows it does,” Professor Wilson said.
I also want to show you all how ignorant some people can be I tried to find a deal on internet for bali and found fabtraveldeals boycotting sales to bali. This was their comment on the situation. So sad to see such ingnorant people in the world
My comments where
really upseting to see a company boycotting selling packages to Bali think about all of those innocent bali families that will now
suffer due to down tourism that you are helping to create.By doing this you can not change what has happened. The bigger picture is that
your are hurting the people of Bali. Are we in the dark ages and eye for an eye? Grow up people.
Their response (you all wont believe it)
Hello Lucie,
Yes, we did take that into account when we decided to pull all Bali advertising, and you are right. The people of Bali will certainly be affected, however if the stall owner, the wood carver, the batik makers, the hotel staff, and all the others associated with tourism, take home less each day, spare a thought as to how much hurt that Schapelle Corby and her family is experiencing.If the prosecution’s appeal is successful she may very well have her sentence extended, or worse still, face the firing squad on a lonely beach, with a blindfold over her head while bound to a post stuck in the sand, then hear the sound of the bolts loading the rifle…and then….two bullets ripping into her chest and taking between 3-5 minutes to die while slumped onto her own body.
It doesn’t bear thinking about, does it?Therefore we hope the Balinese people can speak in one voice to their corrupt government when it hits them in the hip pocket, and not the heart. At least they are not in jail or face a possible firing squad. dick hall
Can you believe it comments please!!!
I also want to show you all how ignorant some people can be I tried to find a deal on internet for bali and found fabtraveldeals boycotting sales to bali. This was their comment on the situation. So sad to see such ingnorant people in the world
My comments where
really upseting to see a company boycotting selling packages to Bali think about all of those innocent bali families that will now
suffer due to down tourism that you are helping to create.By doing this you can not change what has happened. The bigger picture is that
your are hurting the people of Bali. Are we in the dark ages and eye for an eye? Grow up people.
Their response (you all wont believe it)
Hello Lucie,
Yes, we did take that into account when we decided to pull all Bali advertising, and you are right. The people of Bali will certainly be affected, however if the stall owner, the wood carver, the batik makers, the hotel staff, and all the others associated with tourism, take home less each day, spare a thought as to how much hurt that Schapelle Corby and her family is experiencing.If the prosecution’s appeal is successful she may very well have her sentence extended, or worse still, face the firing squad on a lonely beach, with a blindfold over her head while bound to a post stuck in the sand, then hear the sound of the bolts loading the rifle…and then….two bullets ripping into her chest and taking between 3-5 minutes to die while slumped onto her own body.
It doesn’t bear thinking about, does it?Therefore we hope the Balinese people can speak in one voice to their corrupt government when it hits them in the hip pocket, and not the heart. At least they are not in jail or face a possible firing squad. dick hall
Can you believe it comments please!!!
Just out of curiosity - if you get off the plane, pick up your luggage and notice that it feels a few pounds heavier, then open it and find tons of marijuana in there - what do you do?
Would it make a difference if you said “Hey, Bali airport security! I just noticed 4 lbs of pot in my bag that wasn’t there before!”
If the pot was in fact planted, then any one of us could be faced with that very situation…I have a feeling we would all get jail sentences anyway…
Sofia
If that question was directed at me well I can tell you as an experienced traveller (30yrs) and being in the travel industry I dont check my luggage in I always have carry on. If I need to take more things I will always use a heavy lock on the bag and or have it wrapped in plastic (by the way this is not a new thing you have been able to get your bags wrapped for years). So I can quite confidently say that this will never happen to me because I am always very careful. Its a shame that people have become so relax about there baggage that this can happen especially after the world expriencing Terrorism You would think that people would have been a little smarter as it is common sence.
in fact thousands tourists have visited Bali since 1960s, and it happens only to Corby. What the fuss?
The land of Hypocrites
The world as we knew it changed forever on September 11, 2001 when a bunch of suicidal Islamic lunatics hijacked 4 passenger jets and hurtled them at civilian targets, killing over 3,000 people. The Bali Bombings on October 12 2002 also targeted civilians, killing more than 200 people, 88 of which were Australians. The Beslan massacre, suicide bombs in Jerusalem, Jakarta, Madrid, it just seemed endless.
George Bush gave his State of the Union speech outlining the ÔAxis of EvilÕ and followed up by kicking SaddamÕs terrorist funding butt.
The lefty bleeding heart brigade took to the streets world over protesting the hostilities, with past and present failed musicians and actors lining up for their share of the limelight. Not to be outdone, wannbe politician Andrew Wilkie and failed politicians like Bob Brown, Mark Latham and Andrew Bartlett, to name but three, all grabbed their pound of media flesh on their vitriolic soapbox aimed at Bush, Blair and Howard.
The centrepiece of their protests were the lives of innocents in the now war ravaged countries have been destroyed due to the actions of just a few. Some like Pilger and Monboit even heralded these ÔpartisansÕ as freedom fighters standing up against the great Satan.
The most interesting point of it all was the sentiment that others should not revile a country over the actions of the fundamentalist few. This in fact was the cornerstone of their argument. In the aftermath of the Australian Embassy bombing in Jakarta most of these lefty MoonbatÕs called for calm and not to vilify the Indonesian people simply because one or two criminals killed innocent people. The same sentiment rang true in the wake of the Bali bombings, with most Australians feeling sympathy for the Balinese people after the prospect of their livelihoods was jeopardised by the horrific bombings. Many people here in Australia and Bali pleaded with the Australian tourists to not shun Bali.
ItÕs really quite ironic that all that death at the hands of crazed cowards was not reason enough to show disdain for the country from which these atrocities originated and yet the incarceration of a beauty therapist, Shapelle Corby, is!
Newspapers have run sms/letter columns of irrational fools calling for the government to get her out of Indonesia and many more call for a complete ban on Indonesian travel. The Red Cross faced difficulty from people refusing to give if the money was to go to any part of Indonesia. There have also been calls from those that donated to the Tsunami to have their money refunded in the wake of the Corby decision. Letters submitted to the government have asked for the $1 Billion pledged to the Tsunami relief for Indonesia to be withdrawn.
How bl-oody hypocritical are these insipid pr!cks? Terrorists massacred innocent people, including children the old, the frail and yet the country from whence the attacks originated received only compassion for its citizens from these mindless scum. No calls in the media to ban travel to Bali or boycott Indonesian products, no organised rallyÕs of protest against the countries that harboured and fostered these terrorists and no such vitriolic and invective comments by columnists or Current Affairs hosts towards the governments or citizens of these countries. It seems that if you blow up hundreds or even thousands of innocent people you will be blessed with overwhelming support but if you jail just one foreign person whoÕs innocence hasnÕt been established then the whole country faces retribution.
The people calling for boycotts on Indonesia in the wake of the Corby case are nothing but hypocrites who need to reassess their moral values towards human life.
Posted by by Scott @ 12:23 pm - (Elsewhere)
Scott,
Well said!
Thank you thank you scott,
Your comments are outstanding thank you again for some intelligent reading.
Lucie
What a smart argument!
Why? So stupid idiot like you will think that a pretty woman will not smuggling drug.
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Why indeed would a beautiful young lady risk her own life by bringing drugs to Bali? It just doesn’t make sense. Especially considering that the punishment is ridiculously unjust. Its a plant for crying out loud. Im surprised the rest of the world hasn’t declared war on the Republic of Indonesia.
Posted by: Craig on May 28, 2005 04:31 PM
Please Read
http://www.australian-news.com.au/Corby.htm
Nick you have to be a Gormless Idiot if you believe that “Marijuana is grown in the Sydney area and shipped north, to Queensland. Not the other way round.”
Its grown in Queensland & sent the other way.
Please Read
http://www.australian-news.com.au/Corby.htm
Nick you have to be a Gormless Idiot if you believe that “Marijuana is grown in the Sydney area and shipped north, to Queensland. Not the other way round.”
Its grown in Queensland & sent the other way.
Having visited Bali on many occasions and after reading with interest the many different opinions relating to this issue, I would like to bring into the discussion something called perspective.
There is no such thing as coincedence, everything happens for a reason, and most often we have no idea what the reason is- like the saying goes- good joss, bad joss - or good luck isn’t always good and bad luck isn’t always bad.
On life’s journey things happen which are meant to happen, maybe this issue will bring about change for the judicial system in Indonesia, or Australia’s role in the region will change, or some good will come of this for Ms Corby as a direct result of this case? Who know’s what the purpose is? I personally believe that the drugs were planted, but maybe I’m wrong becasuse like most of us we only get information from the press… and if you believe that the press is right, moral or unbiased you’d better wake up and smell the roses because I know how the press never let truth get in the way of a good story.
Some call it Karma, some call it fate…
I am now planning to move to Bali and live with my wife to try and facilitate some change for the local people, by judging Indonesia or boycotting Bali because of legal/political case is akin to judging Australia for the Lindy Chambers dingo fiasco.
Chaos brings change, I sincerely hope this case allows us to feel compassion for all those concerned and allow us to give up our habits of judgement.
Voltaire said, I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Thank you
Tony
THERE HAVE BEEN DISPUTED REPORTS AS TO HOW MANY TIMES SCHAPPELLE CORBY HAS ENTERED BALI.
SOME SAY SHE HAS ONLY VISITED BALI TWUCE…..TRY 32 TIMES……….
PLEASE DO NOT BE SO QUICK AS TO JUDGE THE FEUDAL SYSTEM OF BALI …… THIS IS A COUNTRY TRYING TO CLEAN UP A MESS FROM PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS……
I LIVE IN BALI AND UNDER THE NEW PRESIDENT I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF CLEANING UP HAPPENING INCLUDING MASSIVE LOCAL DRIG BUSTS……
THERE HAVE BEEN DISPUTED REPORTS AS TO HOW MANY TIMES SCHAPPELLE CORBY HAS ENTERED BALI.
SOME SAY SHE HAS ONLY VISITED BALI TWUCE…..TRY 32 TIMES……….
PLEASE DO NOT BE SO QUICK AS TO JUDGE THE FEUDAL SYSTEM OF BALI …… THIS IS A COUNTRY TRYING TO CLEAN UP A MESS FROM PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS……
I LIVE IN BALI AND UNDER THE NEW PRESIDENT I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF CLEANING UP HAPPENING INCLUDING MASSIVE LOCAL DRUG BUSTS……
You Guys All Fuck……..
Don’t you give up BALI, don’t listen to people who only make the problem getting worst
All drug sumgglers must face firing squad. Aussies come to Muslim nation with corruption then cry like little babies when end up in gaol.
I dont agree with the originating blog at all, sounds like pub talk. Below are all the problems I have with this case. I am not anti Indonesian (I’m angry at both Aus and Indo officials), but I have still advised my children and their friends not to travel to Bali until they clean up their act.
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Corby has no history of drug taking or dealing. Her father’s fine for smoking dope 30 years ago has no bearing on this case. Nor the fact that her brother has spent time in jail.
Who in their right mind would put 4kg of dope the size of a pillow in an unlocked bag knowing it was going to be weighed, checked, X-rayed and sniffed several times before arrival in Bali.
Why didn’t the X-rays and sniffer dogs pick it up. Why wastn’t the check-in film and weight information made available to the court. Why wasn’t the bag fingerprinted before it became tainted. Why was the handle broken.
Why wasn’t the dope tested for origin. The baggage area at Denpasar is chaotic, unfilmed and corrupt (similar to Aus as it turned out). We’ll never know that someone wasn’t trying to smuggle stuff to Aus and picked the wrong bag; or that a handler doesn’t have a grudge against Australians and set up an Australian tourist just for the hell of it. Were any of them questioned? Do they even know who was rostered on?
Why did Mick Keelty (AFP head) lie in his letter to the court saying there’s no knowledge of corrupt baggage handling when merely a month later the Sunday program found numerous people including retired police, electricians and other service personnel who found evidence of just that … widespread baggage tampering (incl. many cut padlocks thrown into the ceiling space).
Why did Mick Keelty continue to say publicly, right up to a week before the verdict, that he stood by this letter even in the face of clear evidence (of baggage tampering) in Aus to the contrary.
Why did Mick Keelty publicly downgrade the worth of the evidence of prisoner John Ford even before he appeared in court in Bali.
Why haven’t the Aus baggage handlers at work at the time of processing Corby’s luggage ever been questioned.
Why did the government wait till the 11th hour to offer legal aid.
There is a history of tourists arriving in Bali and finding drugs in their luggage AND the Aus embassy is aware of it. Channel 9 has interviewed at least one couple to whom it happened.
The prosecution told the media they only prosecute guilty people and boast they have never lost a case. The judges seem to wear their guilty verdicts as badges of honour and boast that they have never found someone innocent. At one point during the trial the judges made a public statement that Corby hadn’t proved her innocence. What? (Even in Indo one is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty) In the light of this, how many innocent indonesians are in jail right now? How many innocent indonesians have been executed?
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Where were you’re revolting voices when an entire people was being slaughtered?! For such a long time East Timor suffered an occupation by Indonesia, and during this occupation they manage to murder 1 million innocents… I never heard an uprising of such kind when that happened.
But now everyone raises its voice against the cruelest attack to the basic human rights… one person in jail! Just like the Americans… you just look to your own belly!
Gold Coast-based Professor Paul Wilson, who testified on behalf of Corby at her trial for smuggling 4.1kg of marijuana into Bali, said today that Japanese tourist Chika Honda had been a victim of a miscarriage of justice.
Honda, then 29, was jailed for more than 10 years after heroin was found in her suitcase in Melbourne in 1992.
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Why indeed would a beautiful young lady risk her own life by bringing drugs to Bali? It just doesn’t make sense. Especially considering that the punishment is ridiculously unjust. Its a plant for crying out loud. Im surprised the rest of the world hasn’t declared war on the Republic of Indonesia.